The Influencers' ADHD Wars

There’s a four-letter word taking over the internet — it rhymes with munt — and let’s just say it’s dividing the group chat. We’re diving in, side-eyes and all. Then, has personal style officially left the building? Mia and Jessie are joined by Em Vernem to break down the four forces that have turned fashion into chaos. Plus, our recommendations: the show you’ll binge in a day, the book every Outlouder needs to read, and the one thing guaranteed to scare the crap out of you. And in Best & Worst: gut problems, coping with grief, and a weekend that took 'tradwife' to a whole new level. What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: The Question We're Finally Ready To Answer Listen: Meghan's Bedtime Routine Is A Lot Listen: Caroline Bessette-Kennedy: The Original Influencer Listen: We're Fighting About Being Ugly Listen: What Supercommunicators Know That We Don't Listen: Sex Toys, Borrowing Money & A Dad's Group Chat Faux Pas Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Recommendations: Jessie wants you to watch Black Mirror season 7. Em Vernem wants you to watch Sinners by Ryan Coogler. Mia wants you to read He Would Never by Holly Wainwright. What to read: You might not want to ask your stylist for the latest hair trend. Oxford shirts are your new wardrobe essential. We found options from $25. 'The 3 pieces I'm buying to upgrade my style this year as a fashion editor.' 'I'm a fashion editor, and these are the 7 things I wore on repeat all year.' GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Credits Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Em Vernem Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

2 Maj 51min

Michelle Obama has spoken—and she’s not here to please everyone. The former First Lady revealed what it really took to skip Donald Trump’s inauguration, and why sometimes, disappointing people is exactly the right move. Mia, Jessie and Holly explore Michelle's decision and the role of women as 'shock absorbers'. Also, can kids read minds? The hit podcast The Telepathy Tapes thinks so. But the science behind it is looking more complicated. We discuss. Plus, Meghan Markle has shared a surprising part of her bedtime routine—except it’s not for her, won’t be used for years (if ever), and contains a whole lot of admin. And Gwyneth Paltrow is back in the headlines with a twist no one saw coming: she’s eating carbs again. But do we really need to know every time a celebrity changes their lunch order? Yep, our hosts have thoughts on this... What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: Caroline Bessette-Kennedy: The Original Influencer Listen: An Honest Day On Our Plate Listen: We're Fighting About Being Ugly Listen: What Supercommunicators Know That We Don't Listen: Sex Toys, Borrowing Money & A Dad's Group Chat Faux Pas Listen: The Influencer Who's Changed Too Much & Liz Hurley's Hard Launch Listen: Katy Perry, Gayle King & THAT Blue Origin Space Flight Listen: Clare Stephens - We Have Questions Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. What to read: Read: Meghan Markle writes a letter every night. They won't be opened for years. Read: 'For Meghan Markle's show to succeed, she needs to go full Gwyneth Paltrow.' Read: ‘A debate is raging over Gwyneth Paltrow’s "boyfriend breakfast" and this time I'm on her side.’ Read: Exactly why the internet is convinced the Obamas are divorcing. Read: For a brief moment, the internet was convinced Barack Obama and Jennifer Aniston were having an affair. Read: All of Holly Wainwright's books in one place. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

30 Apr 45min

When you fall for someone else on national television, is there a right way to break the news to your partner? On today's show, we dive deep into the tangled breakup of Jojo Siwa and Aussie Kath Ebbs — and yep, it’s messier than you think. Also, the final leaders’ debate served up a baffling convo about eggs, a full-blown culture war, and plenty of secondhand embarrassment. And finally, we're at home with the deeply calm and zen-like Clooneys. George and Amal never argue apparently but is this really something to aspire to in a marriage? We’re unpacking everything they're missing out on when there's no argy-bargy and reveal what couples actually fight about. What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: What Supercommunicators Know That We Don't Listen: Sex Toys, Borrowing Money & A Dad's Group Chat Faux Pas Listen: The Influencer Who's Changed Too Much & Liz Hurley's Hard Launch Listen: Katy Perry, Gayle King & THAT Blue Origin Space Flight Listen: Another Little Treat: The Tyranny Of Looking Like You Haven't Tried Listen: A Little Treat: This Special Live Show Recording Spilt 10 Years of Tea Listen: The Exact Science To Keep You Enjoying Your Job Listen: A Very 2025 Diss Track. No Notes. Listen: Clare Stephens - We Have Questions Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. What to read: Hours after leaving Big Brother, JoJo Siwa and Kath Ebbs split. Now, Kath has spoken. After another 'aggressive' incident, Mickey Rourke has left Celebrity Big Brother. Virginia Giuffre, one of Jeffrey Epstein's most prominent accusers, has died, aged 41. Days before her heartbreaking post, Virginia Giuffre was facing court. 'The sausage dog who terrorised Kangaroo Island for 500 days is my obsession. At last, we have an update.' 'My life changed.' A look into George Clooney's family life with 7-year-old twins. 'I asked couples without kids what they actually fight about. One answer kept coming up.' GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

28 Apr 44min

Today's Sunday Special is one we think you're going to love. Mia Freedman has been in countless conversations with Holly Wainwright—on mics, off mics, in meetings, in texts. But she’s never been on MID. Until now. In this episode, Holly kicks off Season Five with someone who knows her well, and who’s read something very personal—her brand new book, He Would Never. It’s a story about the limits and power of female friendships, narcissistic love, and the tricky transitions from girlhood to teenagehood. And Mia had thoughts. Lots of them. For one - the teenage girls we were in the 90s are very different than the teenage girls of today. This episode is about writing and ambition. Confidence and self-doubt. Teenage daughters and their teenage selves. It’s a conversation between two women the same age, but at different parenting stages. At the end of this episode, Holly has a very special gift for you - so stick around, you don't want to miss it. You can pre order Holly's book He Would Never here. And it's available in all good book stores from April 29th THE END BITS: Share your feedback! Send us a voice message or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au Follow us on Instagram @MidbyMamamia or sign up to the MID newsletter, dropping weekly here. Mamamia's new podcast BIZ is rewriting the rules of work with no generic advice - just real strategies from women who've actually been there. Listen here. CREDITS: Host: Holly Wainwright Guest: Mia Freedman Executive Producer: Naima Brown Senior Producer: Grace Rouvray Producer: Tahli Blackman Audio Producer: Jacob Round Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

26 Apr 51min

When was the last time you cried in front of someone else? Or shared a deep conversation that left you feeling fulfilled? Well friends, we've found a magical list of questions that might be the shortcut to connection. We unpack the secrets of supercommunicators. Plus - Holly's favourite lip products, a book Jessie needs everyone to read, and an article about the most wild new cosmetic procedure we've heard yet... it's our recommendations. And, our bests and worsts including a camping Nicole, a family sick-fest, and some feedback for Nana. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Get your merch for Mamamia Out Loud What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: Sex Toys, Borrowing Money & A Dad's Group Chat Faux Pas Listen: The Influencer Who's Changed Too Much & Liz Hurley's Hard Launch Listen: Katy Perry, Gayle King & THAT Blue Origin Space Flight Listen: Another Little Treat: The Tyranny Of Looking Like You Haven't Tried Listen: A Little Treat: This Special Live Show Recording Spilt 10 Years of Tea Listen: The Exact Science To Keep You Enjoying Your Job Listen: A Very 2025 Diss Track. No Notes. Listen: Clare Stephens - We Have Questions Listen: A Reality TV Showdown & Coachella's Three Levels Of Cool Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Recommendations: Jessie wants you to read The Safekeep Novel by Yael van der Wouden Holly wants you to try the NARS Afterglow Lip Balm Mia wants you to check out 'Inside Australia's booming leg lengthening industry' by Erin Docherty What to read: The best new TV shows and movies to binge this long weekend. 'I used these two words constantly until someone called me out. My career changed overnight.' 'There are 6 different conversation styles. If you’re a "builder", stay away from me.' Yes, your friends are talking about you. And other lessons from the 'White Lotus Three'. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright & Mia Freedman Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Leah Porges Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

25 Apr 39min

What happens when a person becomes the brand? Influencer Remi Bader is facing backlash for a personal transformation—and her followers aren’t happy they weren’t part of the journey. We unpack the online pushback and ask: does she actually owe anyone an explanation? Plus, Pope Francis passed away this week. What happens now? We take you inside the mysterious, centuries-old process of choosing the next Pope. Also, with just 10 days until the Australian election, a major issue is being overlooked. In a week filled with devastating headlines about violence against women, we’re asking: what do we really expect from the leaders of our country? And finally… Liz Hurley has gone public with a very unexpected new romance—and it’s giving a very specific energy. We’ve got thoughts. Lots of them. Support independent women's media Resources: If you or someone you know is in need of support contact help is available: 1800RESPECT 1800 737 732 Lifeline 13 11 14 Beyond Blue 1300 22 4636 The End Bits: Make a donation to RizeUp. RizeUp helps survivors of domestic violence rebuild their lives and break free from the cycle of violence. What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: Katy Perry, Gayle King & THAT Blue Origin Space Flight Listen: Another Little Treat: The Tyranny Of Looking Like You Haven't Tried Listen: A Little Treat: This Special Live Show Recording Spilt 10 Years of Tea Listen: The Exact Science To Keep You Enjoying Your Job Listen: A Very 2025 Diss Track. No Notes. Listen: Clare Stephens - We Have Questions Listen: A Reality TV Showdown & Coachella's Three Levels Of Cool Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. What to read: Thi Kim Tran suffered an unthinkable crime. We finally know why. Three women dead in 24 hours. Yet our potential leaders remain silent. From anti-climate science to 'pro-life': What every single minor party actually stands for A serious investigation into Liz Hurley's eclectic taste in men. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

23 Apr 46min

Happy Monday, Outlouders — we’ve got a juicy little treat for you. Usually reserved for subscribers, we’re dropping this one into your feed because… well, you deserve it. As the seasons change, so apparently must our entire wardrobes. Again. It’s a lot. In this episode, Mia and Jessie are joined by the glorious Amelia Lester to unpack the pressure to be 'effortlessness'. We’re talking: The ‘I Woke Up Like This’ lie. Nope, your hair did not do that on its own. Why pretending not to try is somehow the most work of all How the effortless aesthetic has crept into fashion, parenting, relationships, work… you name it, it's got to be without a hint of trying. It’s a full-time job to look like you’re not working at anything. And we’re officially over it. The End Bits Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Don't miss out on your merch for Mamamia Out Loud What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: This Special Live Show Recording Spilt 10 Years of Tea Listen: The Exact Science To Keep On Enjoying Your Job Listen: A Very 2025 Diss Track. No Notes. Listen: Clare Stephens - We Have Questions Listen: A Reality TV Showdown & Coachella's Three Levels Of Cool Listen: I’d Like To Give My Diagnosis Back Listen: The Three Rules For Friendship Catch-Ups Listen: The "Ick" Of Old Friends & The Most Hated Woman On The Internet Listen: "We're Not OK" - The White Lotus Season 3 FinaleSubscribe Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. What To Read: Everything you need to know about the Mamamia Out Loud ALL OR NOTHING TOUR coming May 2025 There's a foolproof way to figure out if you're a gold or silver jewellery girly. The 'effortless style' myth is the reason you can't get dressed. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

20 Apr 23min

What happens when three Mamamia Out Loud hosts, a live audience, and a very shiny Apple store come together? Chaos. Joyful chaos. To celebrate 10 years of Mamamia Out Loud (yes, 10!), Mia, Jessie and Holly recorded a special live episode at Apple Sydney — and now, you get to hear it. From how Holly wheedled her way onto the show, to what really goes into choosing our daily topics, and the moments that have stayed with us the most, it’s all here. Hosted by our fantastic friend of the pod Amelia Lester and full of behind-the-scenes tea, this is your backstage pass to a decade of strong opinions, respectful disagreements, and... shoe jewellery. Happy public holiday, Outlouders — this one's a little treat. Support independent women's media Get your tickets to the Mamamia Out Loud Live 2025 All or Nothing Tour Presented By Nivea Cellular Get your merch for Mamamia Out Loud What to listen to next: Listen to the latest episode: The Exact Science To Keep On Enjoying Your Job Listen: A Very 2025 Diss Track. No Notes. Listen: Clare Stephens - We Have Questions Listen: A Reality TV Showdown & Coachella's Three Levels Of Cool Listen: I’d Like To Give My Diagnosis Back Listen: The Three Rules For Friendship Catch-Ups Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. What To Read: Which Mamamia Out Loud host are you? Holly, Mia or Jessie? GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas Audio Producer: Lu Hill Video Producer: Josh Green Junior Content Producers: Coco Lavigne & Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

17 Apr 40min