151. OCD Specialist: The Shocking Truth About In Vivo ERP Therapy for OCD

What if the story that makes you feel most ashamed… is the exact story you need to face?

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In this episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, Kristina Orlova continues her conversation with clinical director Natalia Aiza in part three of the ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention) series. Together, they explore live exposures — the practice of confronting OCD fears in real time instead of avoiding them.

Natalia shares her journey of:

• Facing intrusive fears head-on with live ERP

• Learning to trust herself again after doubting her safety around loved ones

• Why “breaking OCD’s rules” is key to recovery

• What it really feels like to sit in the discomfort and not perform compulsions

This episode also dives into:

• Why ERP feels counterintuitive — but works

• How OCD uses secrecy and avoidance to stay powerful

• The role of courage and compassion in confronting fears

• Why recovery means learning to live with uncertainty

Whether you’re struggling with OCD yourself or supporting someone who is, this conversation offers insight, clarity, and hope to guide your recovery journey.

📲 Natalia Aiza (guest):

• LPC, Founder of Kairos, specializes in OCD, anxiety, ADHD, and parent coaching for all ages.
• OCD Colorado: https://www.kairoswellnesscollective.com/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/letstalk.ocd

✂️TIMESTAMPS:

[00:00] – Welcome & Introduction [01:30] – Why ERP gets “fun & creative” outside the therapy room [02:35] – Pe*ophilia OCD & Harm OCD: You’re NOT who OCD says you are [03:05] – Babysitting kids as exposure?! Saying yes instead of no [04:00] – Why “belief” matters before facing taboo fears [05:30] – Parents avoiding their own children: breaking the cycle fast [06:15] – Intentional vs. organic exposures: what’s the difference? [07:00] – Life throws exposures at you daily — here’s how to use them [07:30] – Breaking OCD rules & sitting in raw discomfort [08:30] – Her scariest thought: “What if I throw my kids out the window?” [09:30] – Why your body reacts & what habituation really means [10:45] – Urge surfing: riding the wave without compulsions [12:30] – Facing identity & sexual orientation OCD with exposures [14:20] – Justice-based ERP: tailoring therapy without harm [16:30] – Faith & ERP: therapy that respects your religion [19:00] – The #1 job of ERP: teach the brain what’s truly safe [19:50] – Where to find Natalia & episode wrap-up

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Welcome to OCD Whisperer! Each episode shares tools and insights for OCD recovery, managing intrusive thoughts, ERP therapy, CBT techniques, anxiety relief, and mindfulness practices. Join me for expert interviews and personal insights into overcoming OCD. Subscribe to find support, strategies, and hope for your OCD journey.

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