Ep. 194 - Human Element Series - RUSE: Corporate Spies as a Service with Robert Kerbeck

Today we are joined by Robert Kerbeck. Robert is the founder of the Malibu Writers Circle, a lifetime member of the Actors Studio, and a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania. His true crime memoir about his secret career as a corporate spy, RUSE: Lying the American Dream from Hollywood to Wall Street, has received praise from Frank Abagnale and former CIA Agent Valerie Plame. Kerbeck's writing has appeared in numerous publications including the Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, Los Angeles Magazine, and Lithub's Crime Reads. [Jan 25, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:26 – Intro Links

• Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/

• Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
• Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
• Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
• CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/

• innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

02:21 – Robert Kerbeck Intro

03:28 – How do you "stumble" into becoming a corporate spy?

06:51 – Going inside: This is Social Engineering

08:29 – Very Dark Grey

10:33 – We Need to Talk About Kevin

11:25 – Making OJ look good

15:25 – Doing what LinkedIn can't

19:54 – Making the lie sound better than the truth

21:13 – Setting boundaries

22:21 – Hacking people is easy

24:46 – Some need convincing

26:08 – Ransomware

28:38 – No spies here!

30:03 – This isn't going away!

31:08 – Knock, knock

32:35 – Hacking the human

34:59 – Find Robert Kerbeck online

• Website: www.robertkerbeck.com

35:43 – Who do you consider your mentors?

• Professor from Freshman Year
• Frank Abagnale

36:49 – Book Recommendations:

• Fair Game – Valerie Plame
• Catch Me If You Can – Frank Abagnale

• RUSE – Robert Kerbeck

38:00 – Guest Wrap Up

38:26 – Outro

• www.social-engineer.com
• www.innocentlivesfoundation.org