The $40B Liquidation That Exposed Crypto's Biggest Problem - Framework Founders
The Rollup14 Okt 2025

The $40B Liquidation That Exposed Crypto's Biggest Problem - Framework Founders

The $40B liquidation on Friday exposed something bigger than market volatility, it revealed crypto's fundamental transparency problem.

In this episode, we sit down with Vance Spencer and Michael Anderson from Framework to break down what really happened during the wipeout and why it matters for every exchange, protocol, and investor in crypto.


We discuss:

- What actually happened during Friday's $40B wipeout

- Why Binance's "special deals" are a massive red flag

- Hyperliquid vs centralized exchanges: The transparency gap

- ETH's bottoming process & potential ratio play

- The 5-7 altcoins actually worth holding right now

- Why gap accounting standards matter more than market cap

- Spot over leverage: Lessons from the washout


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

02:52 Where Were You When $40B Got Wiped Out?

05:10 Hyperliquid Wallet Wipeouts Nobody Saw Coming

08:39 Binance's Secret Non-ADL Deals (Why This Is a Red Flag)

10:53 Hibachi Ad, Relay Ad, Talus Ad

12:41 Transparency as Competitive Advantage (Not Just Marketing)

14:10 Where Does Plasma Go From Here?

17:02 Revenue Fundamentals vs Nihilism (What Actually Matters)

22:26 How Institutions Really Reacted to the Washout

25:53 Recall Ad, Enso Ad

27:42 Larry Fink's Debasement Trade (Why He's Right)

29:35 ETH's Bottoming Case (The Ratio Play Everyone Missed)

32:54 The Final Rotation Debate (Where's the Money Going?)

36:54 Real Businesses vs Zeros (The 5-7 Altcoins Worth Holding)

41:03 Perp DEX Landscape Analysis (Who Survives?)

44:42 Why Fundamentals = Holder Conviction (Not Just VC Talk)

48:12 Hyperliquid's Post-Liquidation Path (Can They Recover?)

51:01 Monad Airdrop Preview (What to Expect)


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