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In this episode of Battleground '44 series Saul speaks to Historian and friend of the show James Holland. James will be familiar to many listeners as co-host of our sister podcast, We Have Ways of Making You Talk, and today he joins Saul to discuss is new book Cassino '44, which focuses on the brutal Allied campaign in Italy in 1944. If you have any thoughts or questions, you can send them to - podbattleground@gmail.com Producer: James Hodgson X (Twitter): @PodBattleground Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices