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With LUCIE FINK, producer and lifestyle host at Refinery29. This week, Kimmy and Liza are joined by the most impressive Lucie Fink to talk long distance relationships, date Number 15, and of course, some listener-submitted worst first dates. Follow 51FD and Lucie at: @51firstdatespod @luciebfink Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices