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LONDON, 2023: Evgeny finally meets Nicholas Negroponte, one of the most famous prophets of the digital age and a key figure inspired by Brodey and Johnson. As their conversation unfolds, questions arise: Has Negroponte remained true to their pioneering concepts, or has he ventured into realms they would disapprove of? And what about the MIT Media Lab—does it extend the legacy of the Environmental Ecology Lab, or has it charted its own course? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices