Cracking Down on Leaks

For a year and a half, President Trump has threatened to crack down on leaks and leakers. The seizure of emails and phone records from a reporter at The New York Times tells a great deal about what that might look like. Guest: Matt Apuzzo, a reporter for The Times in Washington who had his records subpoenaed during the Obama administration. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.