#486 – Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

Charles Isbell is the Dean of the College of Computing at Georgia Tech. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Neuro: https://www.getneuro.com and use code LEX to get 15% off – Decoding Digital: https://appdirect.com/decoding-digital – MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off annual sub – Cash App: https://cash.app/ and use code LexPodcast to get $10 EPISODE LINKS: Charles’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/isbellHFh Charles’s Website: https://www.cc.gatech.edu/~isbell/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:16) – Top 3 movies of all time (13:26) – People are easily predictable (19:08) – Breaking out of our bubbles (30:54) – Interactive AI (37:26) – Lifelong machine learning (45:53) – Faculty hiring (53:27) – University rankings (1:00:55) – Science communicators (1:10:20) – Hip hop (1:19:20) – Funk (1:20:44) – Computing (1:36:35) – Race (1:52:40) – Cop story (2:01:01) – Racial tensions (2:10:23) – MLK vs Malcolm X (2:13:44) – Will human civilization destroy itself? (2:18:14) – Fear of death and the passing of time

2 Marras 20202h 28min

Eric Weinstein is a mathematical physicist, podcaster, and intellectual. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Grammarly: https://grammarly.com/lex to get 20% off premium – Sun Basket: https://sunbasket.com/lex and use code LEX to get $35 off – SEMrush: https://www.semrush.com/partner/lex/ to get a free month of Guru – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free EPISODE LINKS: Eric’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein Eric’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ericweinsteinphd The Portal podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-portal/id1469999563 PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 00:00 – Introduction 07:46 – Eddie Van Halen 15:26 – Leonard Cohen 23:22 – Battle between ego and humility 28:38 – Darkness and beauty 35:20 – Jimi Hendrix 38:08 – Good Will Hunting 42:16 – Revolutionary minds 53:49 – Next Elon Musk should come from MIT 58:14 – Love with save the world 1:03:30 – Are we headed toward a civil war? 1:15:04 – Joe Rogan 1:28:52 – Our political leaders 1:34:11 – Younger people should have more power 1:44:30 – The Portal 2:09:20 – Money 2:11:26 – Roger Penrose 2:19:06 – Jeffrey Epstein 2:37:44 – We need to get off this planet 2:40:41 – An update on Geometric Unity 2:46:33 – Gratitude

30 Loka 20202h 57min

Manolis Kellis is a computational biologist at MIT. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – SEMrush: https://www.semrush.com/partner/lex/ to get a free month of Guru – Pessimists Archive: https://pessimists.co/ – Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/lex and use code LEX to get $200 off – BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off EPISODE LINKS: Manolis Website: http://web.mit.edu/manoli/ Manolis Twitter: https://twitter.com/manoliskellis Manolis YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkKlJ5LHrE3C7fgbnPA5DGA Manolis Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manolis_Kellis PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 00:00 – Introduction 08:05 – Molecular basis for human disease 32:04 – Deadliest diseases 37:47 – Genetic component of diseases 46:38 – Genetic understanding of disease 1:02:25 – Unified theory of human disease 1:08:26 – Genome circuitry 1:33:29 – CRISPR 1:45:06 – Mitochondria 1:53:10 – Future of biology research 2:22:46 – The genetic circuitry of disease

25 Loka 20202h 40min

George Hotz (geohot) is a programmer, hacker, and the founder of Comma.ai. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Four Sigmatic: https://foursigmatic.com/lex and use code LexPod to get up to 40% & free shipping – Decoding Digital: https://appdirect.com/decoding-digital – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free EPISODE LINKS: Comma.ai’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/comma_ai Comma.ai’s Website: https://comma.ai/ George’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgehotz George’s Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/georgehotz George’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/realgeorgehotz Comma.ai YouTube (unofficial): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwgKmJM4ZJQRJ-U5NjvR2dg PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 00:00 – Introduction 07:02 – Will human civilization destroy itself? 09:49 – Where are the aliens? 14:36 – Tic Tac UFO and Bob Lazar 17:04 – Conspiracy theories 19:07 – The programming language of life 23:28 – The games that humans play 31:58 – Memory leaks in the simulation 34:29 – Theories of everything 36:14 – Ethereum startup story 44:02 – Cryptocurrency 53:28 – Self-help advice 57:08 – Comma.ai 59:02 – Comma two 1:07:50 – Tesla vs Comma.ai 1:16:53 – Driver monitoring 1:30:34 – Communicating uncertainty 1:32:22 – Tesla Dojo 1:38:50 – Tesla Autopilot big rewrite 1:45:09 – How to install the Comma Two 1:49:44 – Openpilot is Android & Autopilot is iOS 1:58:59 – Waymo 2:10:12 – Autonomous driving and society 2:12:24 – Moving 2:15:29 – Advice to Startups 2:28:32 – Programming setup 2:31:32 – Ideas that changed my life 2:39:37 – GPT-3 2:42:57 – AGI 2:47:00 – Programming languages that everyone should learn 2:53:33 – How to learn anything 2:56:05 – Book recommendations 3:04:28 – Love 3:06:17 – Psychedelics 3:08:38 – Crazy

22 Loka 20203h 13min

Chris Lattner is a world-class software & hardware engineer, leading projects at Apple, Tesla, Google, and SiFive. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Blinkist: https://blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get a free week of premium – Neuro: https://www.getneuro.com and use code LEX to get 15% off – MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off annual sub – Cash App: https://cash.app/ and use code LexPodcast to get $10 EPISODE LINKS: Chris’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/clattner_llvm Chris’s Website: http://nondot.org/sabre/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 00:00 – Introduction 07:12 – Working with Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Jeff Dean 12:42 – Why do programming languages matter? 18:42 – Python vs Swift 29:35 – Design decisions 34:53 – Types 38:41 – Programming languages are a bicycle for the mind 41:13 – Picking what language to learn 47:12 – Most beautiful feature of a programming language 56:36 – Walrus operator 1:06:03 – LLVM 1:11:15 – MLIR compiler framework 1:15:21 – SiFive semiconductor design 1:27:56 – Moore’s Law 1:31:09 – Parallelization 1:35:37 – Swift concurrency manifesto 1:46:26 – Running a neural network fast 1:52:03 – Is the universe a quantum computer? 1:57:44 – Effects of the pandemic on society 2:14:56 – GPT-3 2:19:15 – Software 2.0 2:32:41 – Advice for young people 2:37:24 – Meaning of life

19 Loka 20202h 47min

Scott Aaronson is a quantum computer scientist. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – SimpliSafe: https://simplisafe.com/lex and use code LEX to get a free security camera – Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/lex and use code LEX to get $200 off – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free – BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex and use code LEX to get 10% off EPISODE LINKS: Scott’s Blog: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/ Our previous episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX5t8EivCaM PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 00:00 – Introduction 07:46 – Simulation 12:38 – Theories of everything 18:18 – Consciousness 40:32 – Roger Penrose on consciousness 50:44 – Turing test 54:31 – GPT-3 1:03:02 – Universality of computation 1:09:33 – Complexity 1:15:38 – P vs NP 1:27:57 – Complexity of quantum computation 1:40:03 – Pandemic 1:53:49 – Love

12 Loka 20201h 56min

Lisa Feldman Barrett is a neuroscientist, psychologist, and author. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get free vitamin D3/K2 – Magic Spoon: https://magicspoon.com/lex and use code LEX to get free shipping – Cash App: https://cash.app/ and use code LexPodcast to get $10 EPISODE LINKS: Seven and a Half Lessons About the Brain (book): https://amzn.to/2Sp5ar9 How Emotions Are Made (book): https://amzn.to/2GwAFg6 Lisa’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/LFeldmanBarrett Lisa’s Website: https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 00:00 – Introduction 06:35 – Are we alone in the universe? 08:03 – Life on Earth 12:55 – Collective intelligence of human brains 21:43 – Triune brain 27:52 – The predicting brain 35:48 – How the brain evolved 41:47 – Free will 50:40 – Is anything real? 1:03:13 – Dreams 1:09:00 – Emotions are human-constructed concepts 1:34:29 – Are women more emotional than men? 1:43:05 – Empathy 2:14:46 – Love 2:18:40 – Mortality 2:20:16 – Meaning of life

4 Loka 20202h 24min

Michael Malice is a political thinker, podcaster, and author. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – SEMrush: https://www.semrush.com/partner/lex/ to get a free month of Guru – DoorDash: https://doordash.com/ and use code LEX to get $5 off – MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off annual sub EPISODE LINKS: Michael’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/michaelmalice Michael’s Community: https://malice.locals.com/ Michael’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5tj5QCpJKIl-KIa4Gib5Xw Michael’s Website: http://michaelmalice.com/about/ Your Welcome podcast: https://bit.ly/30q8oz1 The New Right (book): https://amzn.to/34gxLo3 Dear Reader (book): https://amzn.to/2HPPlHS PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. 00:00 – Introduction 04:15 – Sponsors 07:58 – Putin and the Russian soul 15:01 – Love and trolling 25:31 – Problem with government 31:03 – Anarchism 53:07 – Politics 54:59 – Are most people capable of thinking deeply? 1:02:08 – Willy Wonka and Albert Camus view of life 1:08:08 – Trolling 1:12:26 – Conspiracy theories 1:29:43 – Donald Trump and the Election 1:36:58 – Trump Biden presidential debates 1:41:15 – Journalism is broken 1:47:56 – Communism 1:54:02 – Presidential candidates 2:04:34 – Libertarian party 2:14:56 – Objectivism 2:24:17 – Trolling 2:35:21 – The New Right 2:43:29 – Cancel culture 3:13:17 – Book recommendations 3:18:08 – Fear of mortality 3:21:08 – Meaning of life

2 Loka 20203h 24min