Episode 1280: Director Rian Johnson on Faith, Doubt and the Christian Themes in ‘Knives Out’

Episode 1280: Director Rian Johnson on Faith, Doubt and the Christian Themes in ‘Knives Out’

Rian Johnson’s new Knives Out film, 'Wake Up Dead Man,' is sparking conversations few mainstream movies ever touch — faith, forgiveness, power and what it actually means to follow Jesus in a polarized world.

In this episode, we talk with the filmmaker about growing up in the Church, walking away from faith and why Christ’s teachings — especially “love your enemy” — still shape the stories he wants to tell. Johnson opens up about wrestling with the us-versus-them mentality, the corrupting pull of power and influence, and why he wanted to portray Christian belief with empathy rather than caricature.

Plus, the RELEVANT crew debates the best Christmas movie of all time in a chaotic bracket showdown, reacts to surprising year-end culture stories and discusses new research suggesting adolescence doesn’t actually end until age 32.

HIGHLIGHTS:

01:40 – Why 'Wake Up Dead Man' Feels Like a Gospel Story

04:00 – Serving vs. Fighting: Faith and the Culture War

06:45 – Why Culture Is More Open to Spiritual Conversations

09:20 – Is Wake Up Dead Man the Best Knives Out Movie?

12:10 – Is Rian Johnson Done With Faith?

13:10 – Christianity vs. Church Culture

20:15 – RELEVANT Buzz

22:00 – Forrest Frank Breaks Into Google’s “Hum to Search” List

26:30 – Theo Von and Morgan Wallen’s Bible Study Revealed

32:00 – Rian Johnson on Growing Up Evangelical

34:00 – “Arms Wide Open vs. Fists Up” Faith Explained

39:00 — SLICES

39:20 – New Research Says Adolescence Lasts Until Age 32

45:15 – AI Reality TV Is Here (Unfortunately)

47:30 – Christmas Movie Bracket Challenge



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Episode 1287: Trip Lee's Worship Pivot, Jelly Roll's Grammy Sermon & Free Iguanas in Miami

Episode 1287: Trip Lee's Worship Pivot, Jelly Roll's Grammy Sermon & Free Iguanas in Miami

This week, legendary Christian rapper Trip Lee tells us about his unexpected move into worship music with his new album. Before that, the crew swaps stories from last week's historic winter storm—Emil...

3 Helmi 53min

Episode 1286: Chris Pratt on Faith, Fame and Finding Purpose Beyond Hollywood

Episode 1286: Chris Pratt on Faith, Fame and Finding Purpose Beyond Hollywood

This week, we talk to ‘Mercy’ star Chris Pratt about how faith shapes his life and career. He opens up about navigating public narratives, using his platform with purpose and why he believes being ope...

27 Tammi 52min

Episode 1285: Chelsea Smith on Dating, Marriage and What Actually Makes Love Last

Episode 1285: Chelsea Smith on Dating, Marriage and What Actually Makes Love Last

This week, we sit down with Chelsea Smith to talk about dating wisely, building a resilient marriage and navigating seasons when love feels harder than usual. She shares practical advice for singles, ...

20 Tammi 50min

Episode 1284: Khloé Kardashian Talks Faith, A ‘Stranger Things’ Star Does Too, and Philip Yancey’s Scandal

Episode 1284: Khloé Kardashian Talks Faith, A ‘Stranger Things’ Star Does Too, and Philip Yancey’s Scandal

In this episode of The RELEVANT Podcast, we break down a surprisingly faith-heavy week in pop culture.In RELEVANT Buzz, Khloé Kardashian opens up in depth about her faith and prayer life, Stranger Thi...

13 Tammi 54min

Episode 1283: The Top Young Adult Faith Questions, Weird Guinness Records & CITIZENS Frontman Zach Bolen

Episode 1283: The Top Young Adult Faith Questions, Weird Guinness Records & CITIZENS Frontman Zach Bolen

This week, we tackle the biggest faith questions young adults are asking right now (according to the recent Passion Conference) — from evidence for God’s existence and the tension between free will an...

6 Tammi 1h 2min

Episode 1282: Our New Year Episode — Bieber’s Faith, Jesse’s Patriot Games and Very Accurate 2026 Predictions!

Episode 1282: Our New Year Episode — Bieber’s Faith, Jesse’s Patriot Games and Very Accurate 2026 Predictions!

We wrap up 2025 and kick off 2026 by catching up on everything from post-holiday chaos to the optimism that comes with starting a new year. Along the way, we touch on Justin Bieber’s recent reflection...

30 Joulu 202552min

Episode 1281: Our Christmas Episode! Why Does December Feel So Unhinged?

Episode 1281: Our Christmas Episode! Why Does December Feel So Unhinged?

In our Christmas episode, Cameron Strang, Jesse Carey, Derek Minor and Emily Brown dive into a packed RELEVANT Buzz, including NFL players putting faith into action in unexpected ways, a Christian ani...

23 Joulu 202552min

Impact Conversations: TreVeyon Henderson on Faith & the NFL and Lecrae on Reconstruction & Legacy

Impact Conversations: TreVeyon Henderson on Faith & the NFL and Lecrae on Reconstruction & Legacy

In the final episode of the RELEVANT Podcast Impact Conversations series, we sit down with two influential voices using their platforms to point toward something deeper.First, New England Patriots roo...

18 Joulu 202547min

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