CZM Rewind: The Zizians: How Harry Potter Fanfic Inspired a Death Cult & The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader
Behind the Bastards30 Joulu 2025

CZM Rewind: The Zizians: How Harry Potter Fanfic Inspired a Death Cult & The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Part One: Earlier this year a Border Patrol officer was killed in a shoot-out with people who have been described as members of a trans vegan AI death cult. But who are the Zizians, really? Robert sits down with David Gborie to trace their development, from part of the Bay Area Rationalist subculture to killers.

Part Two: Robert tells David Gborie about the early life of Ziz LaSota, a bright young girl from Alaska who came to the Bay Area with dreams of saving the cosmos or destroying it, all based on her obsession with Rationalist blogs and fanfic.

Sources:

  1. https://medium.com/@sefashapiro/a-community-warning-about-ziz-76c100180509
  2. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130318/https://sinceriously.fyi/rationalist-fleet/
  3. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/infohazard
  4. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130316/https://sinceriously.fyi/net-negative/
  5. Wayback Machine
  6. The Zizians
  7. Spectral Sight
  8. True Hero Contract
  9. Schelling Orders – Sinceriously
  10. Glossary – Sinceriously
  11. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130330/https://sinceriously.fyi/my-journey-to-the-dark-side/
  12. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130302/https://sinceriously.fyi/glossary/#zentraidon
  13. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130259/https://sinceriously.fyi/vampires-and-more-undeath/
  14. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130316/https://sinceriously.fyi/net-negative/
  15. https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130318/https://sinceriously.fyi/rationalist-fleet/
  16. https://x.com/orellanin?s=21&t=F-n6cTZFsKgvr1yQ7oHXRg
  17. https://zizians.info/
  18. according to The Boston Globe
  19. Inside the ‘Zizians’: How a cultish crew of radical vegans became linked to killings across the United States | The Independent
  20. Silicon Valley ‘Rationalists’ Linked to 6 Deaths
  21. The Delirious, Violent, Impossible True Story of the Zizians | WIRED
  22. Good Group and Pasek’s Doom – Sinceriously
  23. Glossary – Sinceriously
  24. Mana – Sinceriously
  25. Effective Altruism’s Problems Go Beyond Sam Bankman-Fried - Bloomberg
  26. The Zizian Facts - Google Docs
  27. Several free CFAR summer programs on rationality and AI safety - LessWrong 2.0 viewer
  28. This guy thinks killing video game characters is immoral | Vox
  29. Inadequate Equilibria: Where and How Civilizations Get Stuck
  30. Eliezer Yudkowsky comments on On Terminal Goals and Virtue Ethics - LessWrong 2.0 viewer
  31. Effective Altruism’s Problems Go Beyond Sam Bankman-Fried - Bloomberg
  32. SquirrelInHell: Happiness Is a Chore
  33. PLUM OF DISCORD — I Became a Full-time Internet Pest and May Not...
  34. Roko Harassment of PlumOfDiscord Composited – Sinceriously
  35. Intersex Brains And Conceptual Warfare – Sinceriously
  36. Infohazardous Glossary – Sinceriously
  37. SquirrelInHell-Decision-Theory-and-Suicide.pdf - Google Drive
  38. The Matrix is a System – Sinceriously
  39. A community alert about Ziz. Police investigations, violence, and… | by SefaShapiro | Medium
  40. Intersex Brains And Conceptual Warfare – Sinceriously
  41. A community alert about Ziz. Police investigations, violence, and… | by SefaShapiro | Medium
  42. PLUM OF DISCORD (Posts tagged cw-abuse)
  43. Timeline: Violence surrounding the Zizians leading to Border Patrol agent shooting

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jaksot(1088)

How The FBI Botched the 2001 Anthrax Scare (Part 2)

How The FBI Botched the 2001 Anthrax Scare (Part 2)

Robert discusses the mysterious 2001 anthrax attacks and how the FBI, without any real evidence, decided to destroy a man's life over it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

7 Loka 20251h 12min

It Could Happen Here Weekly 202

It Could Happen Here Weekly 202

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. - SEIU 1000 Union Rep of the IE Reports Live from the Frontline - Everyone Hates Them: Trump, the Media and Jimmy K...

4 Loka 20254h 11min

How The FBI Botched the 2001 Anthrax Scare (Part 1)

How The FBI Botched the 2001 Anthrax Scare (Part 1)

Robert goes through the colorful life and backstory of future Trump administration official Steven Hatfill, who went from Rhodesian military volunteer to biological weapons expert to (innocent) suspec...

2 Loka 202559min

How The FBI Botched The Olympic Park Bombing

How The FBI Botched The Olympic Park Bombing

Robert begins our series of episodes about two of the most infamous fuck ups in US law enforcement history, starting with the Atlanta Olympic Park Bombing.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy infor...

30 Syys 20251h 15min

It Could Happen Here Weekly 201

It Could Happen Here Weekly 201

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. - An Inside Look at the Asylum Process - What is Tren de Aragua and Why is Trump Obsessed With Them? - Autism and R...

27 Syys 20253h 10min

Part Two: Buford Pusser: The Worst Sheriff Ever

Part Two: Buford Pusser: The Worst Sheriff Ever

Robert discussed Buford Pusser's war on crime and the crime he committed when he murdered his wife and blamed the mafia. We also talk about how he died, which is fun.See omnystudio.com/listener for pr...

25 Syys 20251h 6min

Part One: Buford Pusser: The Worst Sheriff Ever

Part One: Buford Pusser: The Worst Sheriff Ever

Robert tells the story of legendary lawman Buford Pusser, whose lies about his real life inspired the movie 'Walking Tall' and helped create Hollywood's conception of the ideal lawman. (2 Part Series)...

23 Syys 20251h 1min

It Could Happen Here Weekly 200

It Could Happen Here Weekly 200

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. - Charlie Kirk's Assassination: Sorting Fact from Fiction - DC Police Takeover Update feat. Bridget Todd - Thi'sl, ...

20 Syys 20254h 2min

Suosittua kategoriassa Politiikka ja uutiset

aikalisa
rss-ootsa-kuullut-tasta
ootsa-kuullut-tasta-2
tervo-halme
politiikan-puskaradio
rss-podme-livebox
et-sa-noin-voi-sanoo-esittaa
viisupodi
otetaan-yhdet
rss-asiastudio
rss-mina-ukkola
rikosmyytit
the-ulkopolitist
rss-vaalirankkurit-podcast
io-techin-tekniikkapodcast
linda-maria
rss-kiina-ilmiot
rss-kaikki-uusiksi
rss-hyvaa-huomenta-bryssel
rss-kuka-mina-olen