Sebastian Thrun: Flying Cars, Autonomous Vehicles, and Education
Lex Fridman Podcast21 Joulu 2019

Sebastian Thrun: Flying Cars, Autonomous Vehicles, and Education

Sebastian Thrun is one of the greatest roboticists, computer scientists, and educators of our time. He led development of the autonomous vehicles at Stanford that won the 2005 DARPA Grand Challenge and placed second in the 2007 DARPA Urban Challenge. He then led the Google self-driving car program which launched the self-driving revolution. He taught the popular Stanford course on Artificial Intelligence in 2011 which was one of the first MOOCs. That experience led him to co-found Udacity, an online education platform. He is also the CEO of Kitty Hawk, a company working on building flying cars or more technically eVTOLS which stands for electric vertical take-off and landing aircraft.

This conversation is part of the Artificial Intelligence podcast. If you would like to get more information about this podcast go to https://lexfridman.com/ai or connect with @lexfridman on Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, Medium, or YouTube where you can watch the video versions of these conversations. If you enjoy the podcast, please rate it 5 stars on Apple Podcasts or support it on Patreon.

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Here’s the outline of the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.

00:00 – Introduction
03:24 – The Matrix
04:39 – Predicting the future 30+ years ago
06:14 – Machine learning and expert systems
09:18 – How to pick what ideas to work on
11:27 – DARPA Grand Challenges
17:33 – What does it take to be a good leader?
23:44 – Autonomous vehicles
38:42 – Waymo and Tesla Autopilot
42:11 – Self-Driving Car Nanodegree
47:29 – Machine learning
51:10 – AI in medical applications
54:06 – AI-related job loss and education
57:51 – Teaching soft skills
1:00:13 – Kitty Hawk and flying cars
1:08:22 – Love and AI
1:13:12 – Life

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#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex

#423 – Tulsi Gabbard: War, Politics, and the Military Industrial Complex

Tulsi Gabbard is a politician, veteran, and author of For Love of Country. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Riverside: https://creators.riverside.fm/LEX and use code LEX to get 30% off – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free – NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour – Notion: https://notion.com/lex Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/tulsi-gabbard-transcript EPISODE LINKS: For Love of Country (book): https://amzn.to/3VLlofM Tulsi’s X: https://x.com/tulsigabbard Tulsi’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/@TulsiGabbard Tulsi’s Podcast: https://youtube.com/@TheTulsiGabbardShow Tulsi’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/tulsigabbard Tulsi’s Facebook: https://facebook.com/TulsiGabbard Tulsi’s Website: https://tulsigabbard.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:14) – War in Iraq (15:00) – Battle injuries and PTSD (22:10) – War on terrorism (30:51) – War in Gaza (34:52) – War in Ukraine (38:38) – Syria (46:20) – Warmongers (55:40) – Nuclear war (1:11:08) – TikTok ban (1:23:13) – Bernie Sanders (1:28:08) – Politics (1:46:59) – Personal attacks (1:49:07) – God

2 Huhti 20241h 56min

#422 – Mark Cuban: Shark Tank, DEI & Wokeism Debate, Elon Musk, Politics & Drugs

#422 – Mark Cuban: Shark Tank, DEI & Wokeism Debate, Elon Musk, Politics & Drugs

Mark Cuban is a businessman, investor, star of TV series Shark Tank, long-time principal owner of Dallas Mavericks, and founder of Cost Plus Drugs. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Listening: https://listening.com/lex and use code LEX to get one month free – Cloaked: https://cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off – Notion: https://notion.com/lex – Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings – Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/mark-cuban-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Mark’s X: https://twitter.com/mcuban Mark’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/mcuban Cost Plus Drugs: https://costplusdrugs.com Shark Tank: https://abc.com/shows/shark-tank Dallas Mavericks: https://www.mavs.com PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (11:10) – Entrepreneurship (26:03) – Shark Tank (36:29) – How Mark made first billion (1:02:39) – Dallas Mavericks (1:08:05) – DEI debate (1:43:58) – Trump vs Biden (1:46:20) – Immigration (1:55:53) – Drugs and Big Pharma (2:11:53) – AI (2:16:05) – Advice for young people

29 Maalis 20242h 23min

#421 – Dana White: UFC, Fighting, Khabib, Conor, Tyson, Ali, Rogan, Elon & Zuck

#421 – Dana White: UFC, Fighting, Khabib, Conor, Tyson, Ali, Rogan, Elon & Zuck

Dana White is the CEO and president of the UFC. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack – Notion: https://notion.com/lex – AG1: https://drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil – InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/dana-white-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Dana’s X: https://x.com/danawhite Dana’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/danawhite Dana’s Facebook: https://facebook.com/danawhite UFC’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/@UFC UFC’s Website: https://ufc.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (06:31) – Mike Tyson and early days of fighting (17:10) – Jiu jitsu (23:14) – Origin of UFC (37:25) – Joe Rogan (43:31) – Lorenzo Fertitta (45:58) – Great fighters (49:55) – Khabib vs Conor (53:01) – Jon Jones (56:03) – Conor McGregor (1:01:05) – Trump (1:06:44) – Elon vs Zuck (1:08:04) – Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul (1:10:52) – Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar (1:18:06) – Gambling (1:33:08) – Mortality

25 Maalis 20241h 36min

#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of “Nuclear War: A Scenario” and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – HiddenLayer: https://hiddenlayer.com/lex – BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off – Policygenius: https://policygenius.com/lex – NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/annie-jacobsen-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Nuclear War: A Scenario (book): https://amzn.to/3THZHfr Annie’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/anniejacobsen Annie’s Website: https://anniejacobsen.com/ Annie’s Books: https://amzn.to/3TGWyMJ Annie’s Books (audio): https://adbl.co/49ZnI7c PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:37) – Nuclear war (12:21) – Launch procedure (18:00) – Deterrence (21:34) – Tactical nukes (30:59) – Nuclear submarines (33:59) – Nuclear missiles (41:10) – Nuclear football (50:17) – Missile interceptor system (54:34) – North Korea (1:01:10) – Nuclear war scenarios (1:10:02) – Warmongers (1:14:31) – President’s cognitive ability (1:20:43) – Refusing orders (1:28:41) – Russia and Putin (1:33:48) – Cyberattack (1:35:09) – Ground zero of nuclear war (1:39:48) – Surviving nuclear war (1:44:06) – Nuclear winter (1:54:29) – Alien civilizations (2:00:04) – Extrasensory perception (2:13:50) – Area 51 (2:17:48) – UFOs and aliens (2:28:15) – Roswell incident (2:34:55) – CIA assassinations (2:53:47) – Navalny (2:56:12) – KGB (3:02:48) – Hitler and the atomic bomb (3:06:52) – War and human nature (3:10:17) – Hope

22 Maalis 20243h 12min

#419 – Sam Altman: OpenAI, GPT-5, Sora, Board Saga, Elon Musk, Ilya, Power & AGI

#419 – Sam Altman: OpenAI, GPT-5, Sora, Board Saga, Elon Musk, Ilya, Power & AGI

Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT-4, ChatGPT, Sora, and many other state-of-the-art AI technologies. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Cloaked: https://cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off – Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial – BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Sam’s X: https://x.com/sama Sam’s Blog: https://blog.samaltman.com/ OpenAI’s X: https://x.com/OpenAI OpenAI’s Website: https://openai.com ChatGPT Website: https://chat.openai.com/ Sora Website: https://openai.com/sora GPT-4 Website: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4 PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:51) – OpenAI board saga (25:17) – Ilya Sutskever (31:26) – Elon Musk lawsuit (41:18) – Sora (51:09) – GPT-4 (1:02:18) – Memory & privacy (1:09:22) – Q* (1:12:58) – GPT-5 (1:16:13) – $7 trillion of compute (1:24:22) – Google and Gemini (1:35:26) – Leap to GPT-5 (1:39:10) – AGI (1:57:44) – Aliens

18 Maalis 20242h 2min

#418 – Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

#418 – Israel-Palestine Debate: Finkelstein, Destiny, M. Rabbani & Benny Morris

Norman Finkelstein and Benny Morris are historians. Mouin Rabbani is a Middle East analyst. Steven Bonnell (aka Destiny) is a political livestreamer. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free – Babbel: https://babbel.com/lexpod and use code Lexpod to get 55% off – Policygenius: https://policygenius.com/lex – Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/israel-palestine-debate-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Mouin’s X: https://x.com/MouinRabbani Mouin’s Podcast: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLkT5TSHWFSYKY_6vrNn_vZAmfunA_s9g – Benny’s Books: https://amzn.to/3Vf7NNU – Norman’s X: https://x.com/normfinkelstein Norman’s Website: https://www.normanfinkelstein.com/ Norman’s Books: https://amzn.to/3IqouxU Knowing Too Much (excerpt): https://jumpshare.com/v/8EUbbP40Do44ITDfJUoR – Destiny’s YouTube: https://youtube.com/destiny Destiny’s X: https://x.com/TheOmniLiberal Destiny’s Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/ Destiny’s Website: https://destiny.gg – Norman and Mouin provided additional links to supplement the discussion. See them here: https://sites.google.com/view/israel-palestine-debate/home PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (12:11) – 1948 (1:10:43) – Partition (2:15:16) – October 7 (3:09:27) – Gaza (3:36:02) – Peace (4:40:47) – Hope for the future

14 Maalis 20245h 4min

#417 – Kimbal Musk: The Art of Cooking, Tesla, SpaceX, Zip2, and Family

#417 – Kimbal Musk: The Art of Cooking, Tesla, SpaceX, Zip2, and Family

Kimbal Musk is a chef, entrepreneur, and author of The Kitchen Cookbook: Cooking for Your Community. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free – NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour – BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/kimbal-musk-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Kimbal’s X: https://x.com/kimbal Kimbal’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/kimbalmusk/ Kimbal’s Facebook: https://facebook.com/kimbalmuskofficial/ The Kitchen Cookbook: https://amzn.to/4ccaCoE The Kitchen (restaurants): https://www.thekitchen.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (06:50) – Growing up in South Africa (19:21) – Cooking (42:06) – Ingredients (49:11) – Anthony Bourdain (51:26) – Cooking school (1:07:46) – Life-threatening accident (1:21:50) – Road trip across US (1:33:33) – Zip2 (1:38:16) – Tesla (1:45:41) – SpaceX (1:49:24) – Hope for the future

10 Maalis 20241h 53min

#416 – Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

#416 – Yann Lecun: Meta AI, Open Source, Limits of LLMs, AGI & the Future of AI

Yann LeCun is the Chief AI Scientist at Meta, professor at NYU, Turing Award winner, and one of the most influential researchers in the history of AI. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – HiddenLayer: https://hiddenlayer.com/lex – LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack – Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial – AG1: https://drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/yann-lecun-3-transcript EPISODE LINKS: Yann’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/ylecun Yann’s Facebook: https://facebook.com/yann.lecun Meta AI: https://ai.meta.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (09:10) – Limits of LLMs (20:47) – Bilingualism and thinking (24:39) – Video prediction (31:59) – JEPA (Joint-Embedding Predictive Architecture) (35:08) – JEPA vs LLMs (44:24) – DINO and I-JEPA (45:44) – V-JEPA (51:15) – Hierarchical planning (57:33) – Autoregressive LLMs (1:12:59) – AI hallucination (1:18:23) – Reasoning in AI (1:35:55) – Reinforcement learning (1:41:02) – Woke AI (1:50:41) – Open source (1:54:19) – AI and ideology (1:56:50) – Marc Andreesen (2:04:49) – Llama 3 (2:11:13) – AGI (2:15:41) – AI doomers (2:31:31) – Joscha Bach (2:35:44) – Humanoid robots (2:44:52) – Hope for the future

7 Maalis 20242h 54min

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