#393 - Breaking the Tyranny of Joiner, Mover, Leaver with Ian Glazer

#393 - Breaking the Tyranny of Joiner, Mover, Leaver with Ian Glazer

Join Jeff, Jim, and special guest Ian Glazer at the Gartner IAM Summit 2025 as they discuss the Identity and Access Management (IAM) industry, the evolution of IAM practices, and the exciting new concepts like Continuous Identity. They delve into topics such as the impact of AI, shared signals framework, and the struggles and triumphs of identity practitioners. Plus, hear about the Digital Identity Advancement Foundation’s mission and enjoy some lighter moments with tales of 'chuckles' and supper clubs. Don't miss this insightful and entertaining episode of the Identity at the Center podcast.


Connect with Ian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iglazer/


Connect with us on LinkedIn:

Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/

Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/

Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com


Timestamps

00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter

00:50 Conference Highlights and Podcast Milestones

03:00 Introducing Ian Glazer

05:43 Digital Identity Advancement Foundation (DIF)

08:09 Challenges in Identity Governance and Administration (IGA)

13:28 Continuous Identity: A Paradigm Shift

22:31 Real-World Applications and Organizational Impact

31:51 Realistic Security Measures

32:28 Maturity of Identity and Access Management

34:54 Skills and Challenges in IAM

36:44 Metrics and Outcomes in IAM

40:23 Identity Practitioner Skills

41:19 Solving Problems with AI

46:21 Continuous Identity and Future Trends

48:45 Identity Salon and Community

54:19 Wrapping Up and Future Events


Keywords

Ian Glazer, Continuous Identity, Shared Signals Framework, CAEP, Gartner IAM Summit, Identity Security, Joiner Mover Leaver, IGA, Access Certification, Identity Salon, IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, IAM, Cybersecurity, Non-Human Identity, Identity Practitioner, DIAF

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#378 - Death and the Digital Estate (DADE)

#378 - Death and the Digital Estate (DADE)

This episode of the Identity at the Center podcast delves into the complex topic of death and the digital estate (DADE). Jim McDonald hosts Dean Saxe, Heather Flanagan, and Mike Kiser, who discuss the importance of planning for digital assets after death, the cultural implications of digital identity, and the evolving role of technology in managing these assets. They emphasize the need for individuals to take proactive steps in documenting their digital estate and the challenges posed by varying legal frameworks and cultural perspectives. The conversation also touches on the future of digital identity in the age of AI and the ethical considerations surrounding it.Episode Links:Death and the Digital Estate (DADE) Community Group: https://openid.net/cg/death-and-the-digital-estate/Connect with Dean: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deanhsaxe/Connect with Heather: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hlflanagan/Connect with Mike: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-kiser/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comChapters00:00 Introduction to Identity at the Center Podcast00:10 Introduction to the Death and Digital Estate (DADE) group03:07 The Role of Identity in Digital Estates06:01 Understanding Digital Estate and Its Components09:09 Community Groups vs. Working Groups in Standards11:59 The Importance of Digital Estate Management15:09 Cultural Perspectives on Digital Death18:12 Legal and Ethical Considerations in Digital Estates20:59 Future of Digital Estate Planning24:03 Conclusion and Call to Action31:33 Cultural Frameworks and Digital Estates35:12 The Importance of Protocols in Digital Estate Management39:30 Navigating Digital Wills and Estate Planning42:19 Challenges in Digital Recovery and Access45:18 Actionable Steps for Digital Estate Planning48:52 Personal Reflections on Digital Legacy50:57 The Future of Digital Remembrance54:25 Final Thoughts and Community EngagementKeywordsdigital estate, death, identity management, OpenID Foundation, digital assets, cultural perspectives, technology, legal considerations, AI, planning guide

6 Loka 20251h 2min

#377 - Sponsor Spotlight - Hush Security

#377 - Sponsor Spotlight - Hush Security

This episode is sponsored by Hush Security. Visit hush.security/idac to learn more.In this sponsored episode of Identity at the Center, hosts Jeff Steadman and Jim McDonald spotlight Hush Security, a company emerging from stealth with an innovative approach to machine identity and access management. CEO and co-founder Micha Rave explains why traditional secrets vaults can’t keep up with today’s scale, what it means to truly go “secrets-free,” and how Hush enables visibility, governance, and operability for modern and legacy environments alike.Discover:The real difference between non-human identities and static keysWhy legacy secrets management is breaking in the cloud and automation ageHush Security’s journey from stealth mode to active customersThe business case for removing vaults (and the risks with “hope and prayer” key rotation)How to transition to policy-based access—and measurement metrics for successFun discussions on pancakes vs. waffles in security leadership (really!)Learn more about Hush Security and get a free environment assessment: hush.security/idacConnect with Micha: https://www.linkedin.com/in/micharave/Connect with IDAC on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com#idac #identitymanagement #machineidentity #secretsmanagement #podcast #cybersecurity #JimMcDonald #JeffSteadman #HushSecurity #IdentityattheCenterChapters / Timestamps:00:00 - Welcome and Introduction (Hosts: Jeff and Jim)01:00 - Introducing Micha Rave and Hush Security03:00 - Micha’s Background and the Hush Team’s Journey06:00 - What Is Hush Security and Why Now?09:00 - Leaving Stealth Mode: Patents and Novel Approaches12:00 - What Makes Hush Special? Remediation vs. Visibility15:00 - Vaults vs. Secrets-Free Approach & Industry Gaps18:00 - Non-Human Identities: Static Keys, Secrets, and Access22:00 - Solving Problems Beyond Cloud: Custom vs. Packaged Software26:00 - The Scale of Machine Identity in the Cloud and Automation Age29:00 - Why Secrets Management Is Breaking and the Case for Policy-Based Access34:00 - From Scanning to Policy Enforcement: How Hush Works39:00 - Metrics, Success, and Executive Buy-in for Modern IAM43:00 - How to Get Started with Hush Security (Free Assessments)46:00 - Micha’s Conference Plans and Final Thoughts49:00 - Pancakes or Waffles?Keywords:IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Hush Security, machine identity, secrets management, secrets vault, IAM, cybersecurity, sponsored episode, non-human identities, policy-based access, vault elimination, cloud security, automation, zero trust, Micha Rave, podcast, identity management

1 Loka 202548min

#376 - Understanding Device Identity in a Zero Trust Framework with Shea McGrew

#376 - Understanding Device Identity in a Zero Trust Framework with Shea McGrew

In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim dive into the concept of device identity within a Zero Trust framework. They are joined by Shea McGrew, CTO of Maricopa County Arizona, who provides insights into the importance of managing not just human but also device identities. The discussion explores the philosophical debate on whether machines can have identities, Zero Trust principles, and their application in a diverse and semi-autonomous organizational structure like that of the county government. Shea also shares her career journey, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, customer service, and continuous learning in IT. The episode wraps up with a light-hearted conversation on the never-ending pursuit of knowledge.Connect with Shea: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shea-m-6b82a36/Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Podcast Theme00:17 Defining Identity in Cybersecurity01:34 Debate: Can Non-Humans Have Identities?01:57 Guest Introduction: Shea McGrew04:15 Shea's Career Journey and Role as CTO09:28 Challenges and Rewards of Being a CTO11:41 Identity Strategy at Maricopa County14:48 Device Identity and Zero Trust Architecture29:56 Managed vs. Unmanaged Devices40:15 Understanding the NIST Framework42:52 Balancing Technology and People43:58 Training and Partner Collaboration48:03 Organizational Change Management50:40 Future of Device Identity54:40 Debating Machine Identity01:06:36 Curiosity as an Olympic Sport01:13:00 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

29 Syys 20251h 14min

#375 - Mailbag for September 2025

#375 - Mailbag for September 2025

Join Jeff Steadman and Jim McDonald for the September 2025 mailbag episode of Identity at the Center! This episode features listener questions from around the world about digital identity, trust, technology challenges, inclusion, biometrics, and even a candid discussion on air travel etiquette. Whether you're new to IAM or a veteran, you'll find practical advice and real stories. Plus, hear shout-outs to our global community and learn what’s coming up for the podcast team, including conferences and game shows. Don’t forget to leave your thoughts or questions in the comments—let’s keep the conversation going!Chapter Timestamps:00:00 - Intro & Community Shout-Outs04:00 - Upcoming Conferences & Discount Codes07:00 - What the Podcast Is All About08:40 - Mailbag Intro: Listener Questions From Around the World09:20 - Engaging IT with IAM Concepts (Matt in Maine)13:20 - Building Trust in Digital Identity (Amara in India)18:30 - Practical Challenges for Large Programs (Sophie in France)25:45 - Digital Identity and the Unconnected (Jonas in Germany)33:15 - Biometric Data & Security Pros/Cons (Rachel in Canada)39:45 - Air Travel Etiquette: From Shoes Off to Elbow Room48:10 - Outro & ThanksConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comKeywords:IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, mailbag, listener questions, digital identity, IAM, identity and access management, trust, technology inclusion, biometrics, air travel etiquette, conferences, community, YouTube, podcast, global audience, #idac

22 Syys 20251h 10min

#374 - Sponsor Spotlight - SGNL

#374 - Sponsor Spotlight - SGNL

This episode is sponsored by SGNL. Visit sgnl.ai/idac to learn more.In this sponsored episode of Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim discuss hot trends in the identity space, focusing on continuous identity with their guest Erik Gustavson, co-founder and CPO at SGNL. Erik shares his journey into the IAM space, exploratory projects, the thought processes behind SGNL’s continuous identity solutions, and provides insights on how SGNL’s approach integrates with existing identity and security tools. He delves into trends such as the convergence of identity and security, the generational change in identity tech, and the practical use cases SGNL addresses. The episode concludes with a light-hearted conversation about the perfect meal for Jeff, reflecting Eric's passion for cooking.Connect with Erik: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikgustavson/Learn more about SGNL: https://sgnl.ai/idacTimestamps00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview00:36 Sponsor Spotlight: SGNL01:10 Guest Introduction: Erik Gustavson01:41 Eric's Journey into the IAM Space05:47 Role of a Chief Product Officer07:54 The Concept of Continuous Identity20:26 Data Integration and Policy Enforcement26:40 Target Audience for SGNL29:42 Introduction to SGNL’s Ecosystem30:13 Complementing Existing Systems30:44 Challenges with Current Identity Solutions33:27 New Trends in Authorization Management34:09 Aligning with AMP and PBA37:58 Use Cases and Real-World Applications46:31 What Sets SGNL Apart48:37 Future Trends in Identity and Security52:35 A Lighter Note: Cooking and Personal Interests58:32 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com

17 Syys 202559min

#373 - Going Passkey Phishing with Nishant Kaushik

#373 - Going Passkey Phishing with Nishant Kaushik

In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, Jeff and Jim discuss various aspects of identity access management (IAM) policies and the importance of having a solid foundation. They emphasize the need for automation, controls, and how IAM policies should be created without technology limitations in mind. The discussion also covers the implementation challenges and the evolving concept of identity verification. Jeff, Jim, and their guest, Nishant Kaushik, the new CTO at the FIDO Alliance, also delve into the issues surrounding the adoption of passkeys, highlighted by Rusty Deaton’s IDPro article, and address some common concerns about their security. Nishant offers insights into ongoing work at FIDO Alliance, the potential of digital identity, and the importance of community in the identity sector. The episode concludes with mentions of upcoming conferences and an homage to the late identity expert, Andrew Nash.Timestamps00:00 Introduction and Greetings00:18 Importance of IAM Policies01:36 Challenges in Policy Implementation05:09 Conferences and Discount Codes07:59 Introducing the Guest: Nishant Kaushik08:42 The Role of the FIDO Alliance and Digital Identity10:35 Concerns and Solutions for Passkeys22:21 Final Thoughts on Passkeys and Authentication29:48 Credential Security Concerns30:03 FIDO Members and Their Contributions30:38 Getting Involved in Working Groups31:58 Conversations at Authenticate Conference32:29 Evolution of the Authenticate Conference34:32 Automotive Authentication Challenges36:04 Community and Collaboration38:33 Remembering Andrew Nash41:41 Lightning Round: Current State of AI and Identity44:21 Decentralized Identity: Current Trends49:47 Non-Human Identity: Future Perspectives52:19 New York Sports Fandom54:33 Conclusion and Upcoming EventsConnect with Nishant: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nishantkaushik/Learn more about the FIDO Alliance: https://fidoalliance.org/IDPro Article by Rusty Deaton: https://idpro.org/blackhat-and-def-con-2025-thoughts/Kill the Wallet? Rethinking the Metaphors Behind Digital Identity by Heather Flanagan: https://sphericalcowconsulting.com/2025/07/22/digital-wallet-metaphor/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

15 Syys 202557min

#372 - Exploring the Evolution of Identity Management with Darren Rolls

#372 - Exploring the Evolution of Identity Management with Darren Rolls

In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim engage in an insightful conversation with Darren Rolls, a veteran in the Identity and Access Management (IAM) field. They discuss the complexities of identity fabrics, the evolving landscape of IAM, the impact of AI, and the challenges of integrating new technologies with legacy systems. Darren shares his thoughts on upcoming trends, practical advice for IAM practitioners, and even his personal experience with kite surfing. Tune in to gain expert perspectives on the future of IAM and the significance of continuous learning and adaptation in this dynamic field.Connect with Darran: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darran-rolls/Identity Innovations Blog: https://identityinnovationlabs.com/identity-insights/Chapters00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter00:17 Discussing Identity Fabrics and Leadership Compass03:19 Upcoming Conferences and Events05:32 Interview with Darren Rolls: Identity Management Journey09:09 Evolution and Challenges in Identity Management24:41 Future of Identity Management and AI32:05 The Future of IAM in the Age of AI33:12 The Rise of Agent-Based Applications34:12 Challenges in Identity and Access Management35:31 Exploring Vibe Coding and AI Utilities38:09 Monitoring and Telemetry in IAM40:17 The Evolution of Identity Management42:05 The Role of Laws in IAM Architecture46:16 Balancing Legacy Systems with Future Innovations51:39 Kite Surfing Adventures and Reflections59:01 Closing Thoughts and Future EngagementsConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

8 Syys 20251h

#371 - Sponsor Spotlight - Axonius

#371 - Sponsor Spotlight - Axonius

Sponsored by Axonius. Visit https://www.axonius.com/idac to learn more.In this sponsored episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim talk with Amir Ofek, the CEO of AxoniusX, about the company's innovative solutions in identity and access management (IAM). The discussion covers Amir's journey into IAM, the unique challenges of managing identities, and how AxoniusX's data-driven approach provides comprehensive visibility and intelligence. The episode breaks down various use cases, the importance of identity hygiene, automation of identity processes, and the newly recognized identity visibility and intelligence platform (IVIP) by Gartner.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview00:57 Guest Introduction: Amir, CEO of AxoniusX01:12 Amir's Journey into Identity Access Management02:40 Understanding Axonius and AxoniusX08:03 The Importance of Identity Visibility and Intelligence11:48 Challenges in Identity Management22:10 Axonius's Approach to Identity Visibility26:35 Leveraging AI and Machine Learning in Identity Management31:18 Understanding Permission Changes and Their Importance32:10 The Role of Observability in Axonius32:37 Driving Actions with Axonius33:30 Common Use Cases and Workflows35:19 Axonius as a Swiss Army Knife36:16 Ease of Use and AI Integration38:49 Starting with Axonius and Measuring Value43:42 Future Directions for Axonius49:49 The Identity Community and Upcoming Events51:23 Skiing Adventures and Tips57:54 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsConnect with Amir: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirofek/Learn more about Axonius: https://www.axonius.com/idacConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com

3 Syys 202559min