The Future of Economic Security with Dan Kim and Chris Miller
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The Future of Economic Security with Dan Kim and Chris Miller

Is there such a thing as MAD in economic warfare? How should we measure the effectiveness of our industrial policy tools, and what outcomes should we be aiming for anyway? Our guest today is Dan Kim, who served at USITC with stints at Qualcomm and SK hynix before returning to government as the Chief Economist for the CHIPS Program Office. He recently joined TechInsights as Chief Strategy Officer. Also joining us is Chris Miller of Chip War fame. We discuss: What $39 billion can and can’t buy — why the CHIPS Act was never meant to de-risk the U.S. from China or Taiwan, and what “success” looks like when autarky is neither affordable nor desirable, Apple vs. Xiaomi + BYD — invention versus fast-following as competing models of national power, and which system performs better when the goal shifts from profit maximization to geopolitical resilience, What resilience actually means — capability vs. capacity, weakest links, and whether economic security should be measured as “time to recovery” rather than self-sufficiency, Managed dependence vs. overreliance, and whether dependence itself can be a form of power, Why the U.S. still lacks a clear theory, metrics, and institutional design for industrial strategy — and what you can do about it. Subscribe to the ChinaTalk Substack to stay updated about the essay contest! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Software Abundance for Government With Cognition's Russell Kaplan

Software Abundance for Government With Cognition's Russell Kaplan

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Second Breakfast: Iran and the DIB with Fmr SECAF Frank Kendall

Second Breakfast: Iran and the DIB with Fmr SECAF Frank Kendall

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Emergency Pod: Iran + Anthropic

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Second Breakfast: Anthropic, SecDefs being weird

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Second Breakfast: Iran, Munich + European Defense Tech, Anthropic

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Bryan Clark opens the show talking Iran. Recurring cohosts include Justin Mc, Tony Stark and Eric Robinson. Eric Slesinger of 201 Ventures drops in https://ericslesinger.com/ outtro music: rubio's s...

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