156. The Cringiest Line in Lord of the Rings : Film Changes #42 and #43

156. The Cringiest Line in Lord of the Rings : Film Changes #42 and #43

In this episode, we look at two of the most unloved film changes from Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings: Arwen replacing Glorfindel and making Arwen the only one with power and agency in The Flight to the Ford.. Michael and Jonathan break down why these choices set off so many Tolkien fans, how they impact the agency of Aragorn and Frodo, and whether these moments actually improve the movies.

  • Why losing Glorfindel means losing a key link to Middle-earth’s ancient history
  • The movie’s “girl boss” approach to Arwen’s character—and what it does to the story
  • Frodo’s lost agency at the ford, and the difference between book and film
  • The most “cringeworthy” line in Lord of the Rings

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  • The re-release box office numbers for The Lord of the Rings trilogy (any why were they so low)
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