The Geothermal Bottleneck: Who Controls the Future of Energy?

Unlimited energy is just 10 kilometers away. So why don’t we have it?

In this episode, deep-tech entrepreneur Max Werner, founder of Hades Mining, explains why geothermal could rival coal in power output and why it still isn’t commercially viable.

Here’s what you’ll learn:

• Why the 10km barrier is holding geothermal back
• The $500 million cost problem behind deep drilling
• Why drilling speed determines everything
• How laser technology could change the game
• Why energy independence is now a geopolitical issue

The world doesn’t lack energy. It lacks affordable access. If that changes, the global power balance changes with it.

Watch the full episode to understand what’s blocking unlimited energy and who might break through first.

Timestamps:

00:48 Why Geothermal Could Be a Game Changer

01:20 How Deep Drilling Unlocks Earth’s Heat

02:00 The Challenges of Going 10 Kilometers Down

03:34 The Full Vision of Scalable Geothermal Energy

04:50 Centralized or Decentralized Energy Model

05:41 Europe’s Critical Minerals Wake-Up Call

08:13 Why Drilling Costs Block Progress

09:29 Connecting Geothermal and Critical Minerals

10:47 How the Fiber Laser Drill Works

13:21 Best Geographies for Geothermal

14:54 When Geothermal Becomes Mainstream

16:00 The Biggest Myth About Geothermal

16:41 Germany’s Geothermal Acceleration Act

18:26 The Future of Surgical Mining

21:13 Europe’s Untapped Critical Minerals

22:53 Lessons from a Deep Tech Founder

25:07 Pain Tolerance in Entrepreneurship

27:25 The Reality of Building in Deep Tech

29:05 A Proud NATO Moment

30:23 Optimism for Europe’s Future

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