438 - Universal History: The American Religion: Making Way for Mormonism

438 - Universal History: The American Religion: Making Way for Mormonism

Magical beginnings, secular endings. In this episode of Universal History, Deacon Seraphim Rohlin and I start a discussion about early Mormonism (or rather, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) within the broader context of American religious history.
We look at the enchanted religious world of early America — folk magic, treasure seeking, restorationism, the Melchizedek priesthood — and how these patterns shaped movements like Mormonism. We also reflect on the recurring American impulse to “restore” a lost spiritual authority, and the impulse to, on the other hand, make all things respectably secular.

This is episode 4 of our Universal History series on the American religion. Watch it here on YouTube:
Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVX4HUUPrIY_U0msyBRVpwCI_srzn3tjL
Episode 1: https://youtu.be/htXHJ1WRSAg
Episode 2: https://youtu.be/o9rMy6lde0c
Episode 3: https://youtu.be/0_RKBPaQAyk
Episode 4: https://youtu.be/ZopvdgYe-UA

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:01 - Intro music
01:27 - The problem with talking about Mormonism
06:10 - Context for why to talk about this
13:26 - The Bible and magic
20:46 - The distinction in magic
25:55 - Enchanted practices
35:14 - Baptism for the dead
36:20 - Melchizedek priesthood
38:54 - Defining feature of American religion
41:28 - The charismatic narrative
42:43 - Hebrews
44:46 - Esoteric Enoch
45:52 - Secret garments
46:45 - The Whitmer family
51:24 - Joseph Smith
58:56 - Proscribed but practiced
01:02:52 - Many religious experiences
01:04:54 - The attitude to magic and miracles
01:09:24 - Magical beginning, secular end
01:16:40 - Long-lasting

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424 - Universal History: The American Religion - with Dcn Seraphim Rohlin

424 - Universal History: The American Religion - with Dcn Seraphim Rohlin

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423 - Catholic Unscripted - Violence as the New Normal

423 - Catholic Unscripted - Violence as the New Normal

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422 - Why Exaggeration Is Necessary in Storytelling

422 - Why Exaggeration Is Necessary in Storytelling

Given we're still in the fall season, I watched The Conjuring and it got me thinking about how real events can become exaggerated in story form. In this video, I look at how legends are created, and t...

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421 - Deacon Seraphim (Richard) Rohlin - Recovering Our Heritage

421 - Deacon Seraphim (Richard) Rohlin - Recovering Our Heritage

I’m excited to share this powerful talk by Deacon Seraphim Rohlin, my collaborator at the Symbolic World Press and co-host of the Universal History Podcast. In this talk from the 2025 Touchstone Confe...

14 Marras 202557min

420 - How Free Will Actually Works

420 - How Free Will Actually Works

This was September 2025's patron video that we decided to make public. Thank you to my supporters.I explore the question of free will, drawing on the insights of St. Maximus the Confessor. While think...

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419 - Trick or Treat: Halloween Symbolism in Little Red Riding Hood

419 - Trick or Treat: Halloween Symbolism in Little Red Riding Hood

Pre-order Little Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad Wolf now and get a free audiobook read by me, as well as an exclusive Q&A: https://store.thesymbolicworld.com/products/the-tale-of-little-red-riding-ho...

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418 - The Symbolism of the Entire Divine Comedy in the First Canto

418 - The Symbolism of the Entire Divine Comedy in the First Canto

In this video, I read and reflect on the first canto of Dante’s Divine Comedy — the opening of Inferno. This incredible canto puts the entire poem in perspective, serving as a microcosm for Dante's jo...

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417 - Three Things Christians Must Do to Rebuild Culture (Touchstone talk)

417 - Three Things Christians Must Do to Rebuild Culture (Touchstone talk)

This talk took place at the 2025 Touchstone conference, Great and Wonderful Days: Rediscovering the Christian Life in a Post-Christian Age. The title of my talk was “This is the Day”. https://www.touc...

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