SOLUTIONS: A Former CIA Analyst's Plan to Stop America's Scam Epidemic

SOLUTIONS: A Former CIA Analyst's Plan to Stop America's Scam Epidemic

Episode 43: Ken Westbrook shares how his mother got him into fighting scams, the challenge in measuring the scale of scams, and the actions the U.S. needs to take to better fight scams.

When Ken Westbrook's elderly mother was targeted by a phantom hacker scam, he did what any former CIA analyst would do — he investigated. What he found shocked him: hundreds of billions of dollars draining from American pockets each year, flowing directly to transnational organized crime, and no one in the federal government in charge of stopping it.

In this episode of Stolen, Erin West sits down with Ken Westbrook, founder of Stop Scams Alliance, to talk solutions. Ken lays out a concrete three-step plan to turn the tide: a White House coordinator for fraud modeled after drug policy reform, a national data fusion center inspired by NCMEC, and stronger authentication standards for financial ads online. They also dig into the most comprehensive scam survey ever conducted — a Gallup study that will finally give policymakers the data they need to act.

America is losing this fight because we're not organized. Ken Westbrook has a plan to change that.

Stolen is hosted by Erin West, former Santa Clara County prosecutor and founder of Operation Shamrock.

Learn more about Operation Shamrock: operationshamrock.org

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Smoke and Mirrors: Scam Crackdowns in Cambodia and Myanmar

Smoke and Mirrors: Scam Crackdowns in Cambodia and Myanmar

Episode 71: Transnational organized crime expert Jason Tower explains why crackdowns on scam compounds aren’t stopping scams, just moving them from one region in Asia to another. The Myanmar military ...

30 Syys 58min

Small-town Police Officer Takes on the Big World of Crypto Fraud (Mike Bliss)

Small-town Police Officer Takes on the Big World of Crypto Fraud (Mike Bliss)

Episode 70: Mike Bliss didn’t know much about crypto fraud when he met his first victim in August 2025. With coaching from experienced peers, he now investigates fraud cases and helps other officers. ...

23 Syys 34min

How Iowa is Beating Scammers at Their Own Game (Matt Mortvedt and Jessica McGraw)

How Iowa is Beating Scammers at Their Own Game (Matt Mortvedt and Jessica McGraw)

Episode 69: Iowa has found a way to stop elder financial fraud on the very first transaction — before the money is gone. Matt Mortvedt and Jessica McGraw of the Iowa Insurance Division join Erin West ...

16 Syys 44min

Rewriting the Fraud Conversation to Focus on Empathy (Susan Ralston)

Rewriting the Fraud Conversation to Focus on Empathy (Susan Ralston)

Episode 68: Susan Ralston outlines the evolution of fraud and why she considers it a human, emotional crime whose victims deserve empathy over judgement. Erin West meets with Tower Federal Credit Unio...

9 Syys 57min

A Detective’s Journey from Street Patrol to Chasing Stolen Crypto (Scott Simons)

A Detective’s Journey from Street Patrol to Chasing Stolen Crypto (Scott Simons)

Episode 67: How an assignment with the DEA led to Detective Scott Simons becoming one of the nation’s go-to crypto tracers and the investigative lead for Operation Shamrock’s Crypto Coalition. The Gre...

26 Elo 58min

Romance Scam Revisited: Life After “The Tinder Swindler” (Cecilie Fjellhøy)

Romance Scam Revisited: Life After “The Tinder Swindler” (Cecilie Fjellhøy)

Romance scam survivor Cecilie Fjellhøy helps expose fraud — and find justice for fraud victims. Well-known for Netflix’s The Tinder Swindler documentary, Cecilie Fjellhøy joins Erin West to expose the...

19 Elo 56min

The Last Mile: Why Banks Alone Can't Stop Pig Butchering Investment Scams (Lenny Gusel)

The Last Mile: Why Banks Alone Can't Stop Pig Butchering Investment Scams (Lenny Gusel)

Episode 66: Erin West invites 20-year fraud-fighting veteran Lenny Gusel of Feedzai — former Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, and Robinhood fraud leader — to talk about why banks are the last line of...

12 Elo 55min

Scam Victim Traces $700,000 to Two Scammers in China

Scam Victim Traces $700,000 to Two Scammers in China

Episode 65: Don was a retired engineer building his dream home when a Facebook "friend of a friend" request turned into a years-long journey into the world of investment scams. Host Erin West and Don ...

5 Elo 31min

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