Play Isn't a Distraction From Learning, It IS Learning | Kathy Hirsh-Pasek & Roberta Golinkoff

In a culture obsessed with early achievement, test scores, and “educational” apps, are we overcomplicating childhood? In this episode, Diane sits down with developmental scientists Kathy Hirsh-Pasek and Roberta Michnick Golinkoff, authors of Einstein Never Used Flash Cards, to share a freeing, research-backed truth: play isn’t a break from learning - it is learning. Drawing on more than 40 years of research, they explore how joyful play strengthens the brain, how parents can “Reflect, Resist, and Re-center” in a pressure-filled culture, what to know about screen time, and how everyday moments naturally build math, language, and resilience - reminding us that free and guided play may be the most powerful tools we have.

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• Connect with Kathy + Roberta:
• Website
• Book: Einstein Never Used Flash Cards: How Our Children Really Learn--and Why They Need to Play More and Memorize Less

About Kathy + Roberta|

Kathy Hirsh-Pasek, PhD, is a professor in the psychology department at Temple University. She directs the Temple Infant Child Laboratory, where she studies how children learn and flourish. She is also a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.

Roberta Michnick Golinkoff, PhD, directs the Child’s Play, Learning and Development Lab at the University of Delaware and holds joint professorial appointments in linguistics and psychology. A member of the National Academy of Education, she works to improve the lives of children and families.

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