We're making up AI as we go | Saturdata with Joey Yudelson
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We're making up AI as we go | Saturdata with Joey Yudelson

What happens when you train an evil AI and it just lies really confidently? Joey Yudelson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-yudelson/), AI safety researcher at Redwood Research, joins Sam and Shifra to break down why 300 people standing between us and a catastrophic AI future might not be enough, and what data folks can actually do about it.

We talk about:

- Taxonomies of AI risk (silly vs. not silly, yes this is a real framework)

- Why the evil AI wrote 30 paragraphs insisting its buggy code was perfect

- Global AI regulation and who's actually doing a good job (hint: it's the EU)

- How to use Claude agents like a multiplayer cheat code

- Why you personally could make a dent in AI safety research

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Chapters:

0:00 - Intro

0:57 - Joey's origin story: from high school Yudkowsky reader to full-time AI safety researcher

3:42 - A guided tour of the AI safety landscape

6:14 - Where Joey fits in the puzzle: model organisms and misalignment research

7:28 - The evil AI that wrote 30 paragraphs insisting its buggy code was perfect

10:55 - Deep in the lab vs. everyday AI user: how different are they really?

13:42 - The knowledge lag: why comedians are still calling AI "smart autocomplete"

17:24 - Taxonomies of risk: silly vs. not silly (yes, water use is on the table)

22:02 - Being a responsible AI user: what data folks can actually do

28:32 - How LLMs actually work, explained with a very talented dog named Jeeves

33:11 - Joey's lifelong vendetta against SQL (and how he gets away with it)

36:59 - Three rules for getting real value out of AI agents without losing your mind

42:48 - Why you personally could make a dent in AI safety (and the case for Talmudic AI research)

45:20 - Takeaways and outro

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