The Reality of Abortion Care in a Red State with Providers Featured in the Oscar-Nominated Film The Devil Is Busy

What does reproductive healthcare actually look like on the front lines and why is there so much confusion around what’s legal?

In this episode, Tanya and Sarah are joined by AJ Jacobs and Dr. Crista Irwin of Atlanta’s Feminist Center for Reproductive Liberation, featured in the Oscar-nominated documentary The Devil Is Busy, for a candid and eye opening conversation about providing care in Georgia today. We dive into what the documentary reveals from the stark contrast between protesters outside clinics and the reality of care happening inside, to the full scope of roles required to support patients safely and compassionately. AJ and Crista share what stood out most from the film and why these stories matter right now.

In our “Make It Make Sense” spirit, we unpack Georgia’s law tied to early fetal cardiac activity, what it actually means in practice, and why confusion around abortion terminology and access is often intentional. We also explore what care is still available, including miscarriage management, certain exceptions, and the referral networks providers rely on when they cannot serve patients directly.

AJ and Krista break down common myths like the idea that banning abortion stops it and explain how restrictions ripple far beyond abortion, impacting contraception, IVF, and gender-affirming care.

What does it take to continue this work every day and what role do storytelling and advocacy play in shaping what comes next?

(0:00) - Intro

(0:10) - Host introductions & weekly check-in

(1:22) - Guest teaser (Oscar-nominated documentary)

(1:46) - Pop culture: Laguna Beach reunion

(4:17) - Mom Talk drama (Jesse & Chase)

(6:53) - Taylor Swift wins iHeartRadio award

(9:56) - Political updates: Iran war & meme videos

(15:27) - Guest intro: AJ & Crista from Feminist Center for Reproductive Liberation

(20:05) - Discussion: The Devil Is Busy documentary

(29:40) - What led our guests into reproductive healthcare work

(33:57) - Making sense of reproductive rights & myths

(41:38) - Pardon My Politics: Biggest myths about abortion, IVF, contraception

(48:54) - Outro

Learn more about:

Tanya Nathan is a political campaign and communications strategist with over a decade of experience in progressive campaigns and advocacy. Currently a Principal at a nationally-based grasstops consulting firm, she's a Denver native living with her year old daughter, husband, and their rescue pets. Her hobbies include crosswords, mezcal tasting, and trying to find people to talk to about Traitors.

Sarah Andrews is a political strategist living in rural Colorado with her husband and two young kids. When she's not managing campaigns or chasing toddlers, she's passionate about women's rights, childcare policy, and creating space for honest political conversations that don't end in shouting matches.

Website: momarchypodcast.com

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Email: momarchypodcast@gmail.com

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