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The Underground Railroad of Being Horse First (With Lori Halliday)

In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips sits down with long-time collaborator and now teaching team member, Lori Halliday.

This conversation explores a shift happening quietly within horsemanship—a movement that is less visible, less performative, and increasingly happening beneath the surface. Together, they discuss what it means to carry forward work that challenges traditional systems, and why meaningful change often doesn’t happen in the spotlight.

Using the idea of an “underground railroad” of horsemanship, this episode looks at how people are being guided—sometimes gently, sometimes reluctantly—out of dominance-based approaches and into something more honest, more humane, and more sustainable for the horse.

They also explore the responsibility of teaching within this space, how to avoid guru dynamics as the work grows, and what it means to develop real authority without losing independence of thought.

This is a conversation about quiet influence, long-term change, and the kind of work that doesn’t need to announce itself to be effective.

Because not all progress is visible.

But it is happening.

BOOK IN WITH LORI HALLIDAY HERE: https://emotionalhorsemanship.com/lessons-and-coaching

Connect with Lori's Non-Profit Ranch here: https://www.horseandheart.org/

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