#371 – Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Jason Calacanis is an angel investor, entrepreneur, and co-host of All-In Podcast and This Week in Startups. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Brave: https://brave.com/lex - Linode: https://linode.com/lex to get $100 free credit - Four Sigmatic: https://foursigmatic.com/lex and use code LexPod to get up to 60% off - Rev: https://rev.ai/lex to get 7-day free trial EPISODE LINKS: Jason's Twitter: https://twitter.com/Jason Jason's Website: https://calacanis.com/ Jason's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/ThisWeekIn Jason's Link Tree: https://linktr.ee/calacanis All-In Podcast: https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast This Week in Startups Podcast: https://thisweekinstartups.com/about/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (06:52) - WallStreetBets and Robinhood (17:58) - How does the WallStreetBets saga end? (21:09) - Capitalism (26:30) - Ideas vs Execution (27:38) - Learning to learn (33:06) - Risk-aversion (39:07) - Robinhood (47:33) - Parler and AWS (49:59) - Social networks (56:33) - Leadership (1:01:21) - Work-life balance (1:09:44) - Great leaders lead by example (1:17:30) - Advice for startup founders (1:21:57) - Clubhouse (1:22:42) - When will we fully re-open the economy (1:33:20) - Augmented reality (1:36:48) - When should a startup raise money? (1:43:44) - David Goggins (1:45:40) - Disagreement with Chamath Palihapitiya (1:58:52) - Story about Elon Musk's darkest moments (2:07:08) - Friendship

15 Helmi 20212h 16min

Brendan Eich is the creator of JavaScript and co-founder of Mozilla and Brave. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - The Jordan Harbinger Show: https://jordanharbinger.com/lex/ - Sun Basket: https://sunbasket.com/lex and use code LEX to get $35 off - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/lex and use code LEX to get special savings EPISODE LINKS: Brendan's Twitter: https://twitter.com/BrendanEich Brendan's Website: https://brendaneich.com Brave browser: https://brave.com PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (06:54) - History of early programming languages (11:47) - Physics needs more experiments and less theory (16:24) - JavaScript origin story (41:17) - JavaScript was created in 10 days (50:57) - Marc Andreessen (54:14) - Internet Explorer (57:58) - Evolution of JavaScript (1:03:44) - JavaScript standardization (1:09:33) - TypeScript (1:12:05) - JavaScript ecosystem (1:15:15) - HTML5 (1:18:47) - Making JavaScript fast (1:27:57) - JavaScript is the most popular language in the world (1:38:23) - Advice for programmers (1:44:20) - Browser wars (1:50:50) - Firefox (2:12:33) - Brave (2:25:33) - Basic Attention Token (2:50:36) - California (2:59:48) - Mortality (3:00:54) - Legacy

12 Helmi 20213h 4min

Richard Craib is the founder of Numerai, a crowd-sourced, AI-run stock trading system. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Audible: https://audible.com/lex to get $9.95 a month for 6 months - Tryolabs: https://tryolabs.com/lex - Blinkist: https://blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off premium - Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil EPISODE LINKS: Richard's Twitter: https://twitter.com/richardcraib Numerai's Twitter: https://twitter.com/numerai Numerai's Website: https://numer.ai PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (08:12) - WallStreetBets and GameStop saga (22:25) - Evil shorting and chill shorting (24:31) - Hedge funds (30:04) - Vlad (37:00) - Numerai (1:04:16) - Futre of AI in stock trading (1:09:55) - Numerai data (1:13:37) - Is stock trading gambling or investing? (1:17:32) - What is money? (1:20:49) - Cryptocurrency (1:24:06) - Dogecoin (1:28:36) - Advice for startups (1:44:27) - Book recommendations (1:46:29) - Advice for young people (1:50:30) - Meaning of life

7 Helmi 20211h 55min

Zev Weinstein is a young man who thinks deeply about the world. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free - Grammarly: https://grammarly.com/lex to get 20% off premium - SimpliSafe: https://simplisafe.com/lex and use code LEX to get a free security camera - Magic Spoon: https://magicspoon.com/lex and use code LEX to get $5 off EPISODE LINKS: Zev's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/GenerationZW Zev's Twitter: https://twitter.com/zev__weinstein Zev's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zev_weinstein/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (06:52) - Philosophy becomes dangerous in difficult times (12:15) - The power of radical ideas (17:06) - Changing your mind (21:19) - Fear (22:58) - Labels (28:02) - Thomas Aquinas (32:32) - Nietzsche (37:02) - Nature of truth (39:22) - Jordan Peterson (44:54) - Mediums of communication (53:24) - Free will (57:48) - Simulation (1:02:05) - Transcending the limits of human life (1:05:09) - Elon Musk (1:09:30) - Aliens (1:13:01) - Is math invented or discovered? (1:15:36) - Theory of everything (1:17:30) - Eric Weinstein as a dad (1:33:17) - Music (1:40:32) - Advice for young people (1:42:31) - Mortality (1:46:19) - Meaning of life

5 Helmi 20211h 49min

Natalya Bailey is a rocket propulsion engineer from MIT and now CTO of Accion Systems. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - Munk Pack: https://munkpack.com and use code LEX to get 20% off - Four Sigmatic: https://foursigmatic.com/lex and use code LexPod to get up to 60% off - Blinkist: https://blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off premium - Sun Basket: https://sunbasket.com/lex and use code LEX to get $35 off EPISODE LINKS: Natalya's Twitter: https://twitter.com/natalya926 Accion Systems: https://accion-systems.com/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (06:51) - Intelligent life in the universe (10:52) - Life in our solar system (12:57) - Humans on Mars (16:31) - Robots vs human in space exploration (17:25) - AI in space (21:30) - How rocket engines work (26:47) - How ion engines work (31:10) - How colloid engines work (40:07) - Material science (42:57) - Nuclear powered rocket engines (47:56) - Electric propulsion out in space (51:23) - Satellites (56:17) - Photo of Earth from the Moon (57:55) - Humans on Mars (1:00:17) - Propulsion without fuel (1:08:12) - How to build a rocket company (1:15:10) - SpaceX and commercial spaceflight (1:19:42) - Advice to startup founders (1:26:18) - Book recommendations (1:34:36) - Meaning of life

1 Helmi 20211h 39min

Tim Dillon is a comedian and podcaster. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil - Magic Spoon: https://magicspoon.com/lex and use code LEX to get $5 off - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - Rev: https://rev.ai/lex to get 7-day free trial EPISODE LINKS: Tim's Twitter: https://twitter.com/TimJDillon Tim's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timjdillon Tim's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4woSp8ITBoYDmjkukhEhxg Tim's Website: https://www.timdilloncomedy.com Tim's Merch: https://www.bonfire.com/store/the-tim-dillon-show/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (08:00) - Tim Dillon's tombstone (09:55) - The horrible people are the most fun (14:06) - Charles Bukowski (19:46) - Robots (22:56) - YouTube algorithm (29:04) - Parler and Amazon (33:32) - Social media (36:09) - Alex Jones (54:42) - OJ Simpson (59:22) - Politics (1:05:52) - Donald Trump (1:13:09) - Humor (1:20:44) - QAnon (1:27:13) - Conspiracy theories (1:32:50) - Bill Gates (1:35:20) - Elon Musk (1:37:35) - Jeffrey Epstein (1:40:14) - Ghislaine Maxwell (1:47:55) - Greatest comedians of all time (1:57:53) - Love (2:01:24) - Fear (2:04:38) - Mom (2:08:10) - Mortality (2:10:13) - Advice for young people (2:16:47) - Moving to Austin (2:24:40) - Meaning of life

29 Tammi 20212h 29min

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27 Tammi 20211h 19min

Max Tegmark is a physicist and AI researcher at MIT. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: - The Jordan Harbinger Show: https://www.jordanharbinger.com/lex/ - Four Sigmatic: https://foursigmatic.com/lex and use code LexPod to get up to 60% off - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free EPISODE LINKS: News Project Explainer Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRLF17Pb6vo News Project Website: https://www.improvethenews.org/ Max's Twitter: https://twitter.com/tegmark Max's Website: https://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/ Future of Life Institute: https://futureoflife.org/ Lex Fridman Podcast #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi8LUnhP5yU PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (08:15) - AI and physics (21:32) - Can AI discover new laws of physics? (30:22) - AI safety (47:59) - Extinction of human species (58:57) - How to fix fake news and misinformation (1:20:30) - Autonomous weapons (1:35:54) - The man who prevented nuclear war (1:46:02) - Elon Musk and AI (1:59:39) - AI alignment (2:05:42) - Consciousness (2:14:45) - Richard Feynman (2:18:56) - Machine learning and computational physics (2:29:53) - AI and creativity (2:41:08) - Aliens (2:56:51) - Mortality

18 Tammi 20213h 8min