We Should Have Got a Divorce

"If there was any year we were gonna divorce, it was 2025... Any one of these days, one of us was sliding papers across this motherfucking table."

Welcome back to Chapter Two of Conversations with Candice. We aren't easing you into the theme of love and relationships, we are dropping you straight into the deep end.

This week, Candice is joined by her husband, co-producer, and partner of 14 years, Bode Aboderin for an episode that nearly didn't happen.

Triggered by a powerful listener question about what a "10-year rebuild" actually looks like, Candice and Bode pull back the curtain on the curated edits of social media. They get brutally honest about the financial, mental, and emotional fires that pushed their marriage to absolute quicksand last year. This isn't a fairy tale; it's a raw look at what happens when the scaffolding crumbles, and why choosing each other daily is the hardest, most rewarding work there is.

In this episode, we discuss:

• OOTP (Outfit Of The Pod): Uniqlo basics vs. Issey Miyake statements.
• The 4 Pillars of a Relationship: Balancing parental, business, intimate, and individual selves.
• The Illusion of Stability: Why chasing a perfect balance might be holding you back.
• Masculinity & Sacrifice: Bode opens up about quitting his corporate career for the family business and battling identity loss.
• The "Cliff" Analogy: Are you a strategic risk-analyzer or a "jump and figure it out" operator?
• The Power of Want over Need: Shifting away from the savior complex into true partnership.
• The Vasectomy: Why Bode made the decision for himself, and dealing with family expectations.

Follow Candice across socials @candicebrathwaite. This episode is produced by Undeniable Productions and executive produced by Candice Brathwaite Aboderin and Bode Aboderin.

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