213. Trolling for Murder: The Killings of Billy and Billie Jean

213. Trolling for Murder: The Killings of Billy and Billie Jean

It is January 31, 2012, and a family member decides to drop by the home of 24-year-old Billie Jean Hayworth and her fiance 35-year-old Bill Payne. The couple, who shared a 6-month-old son, had recently gotten engaged and we were excited for the future. A family member who regularly stopped by to check in on the young family was always greeted by the baby crawling around. This time it was different. After not being invited into the home, she entered through the unlocked door. She was immediately thrown off since there was not the usual hustle and bustle of the morning. Instead, pure silence. The women called out to them but no one responded. As she made his way through the hallway, she looked into the bedroom and saw Bill Payne lifeless on the bed. Then he came upon Billie Jean on the floor, covered in blood, with her still clutching to her baby boy. The baby had her mother’s blood on him but seemed to be unharmed. The woman makes a frantic call to 911 in shock from what she has witnessed and tries to soothe the baby. Police head to the location nervous about what they will discover. This is not the norm in this quiet Tennessee town of Mountain City, population 2415. Agent Scott Lott from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation reports to the scene. He determines Bill Payne had a gunshot wound to the face and his throat had been slit. Billie Jean had a gunshot wound to the head as well. The house did not seem to be in disarray indicating this was not a burglary gone wrong. What it did indicate was that someone wanted both of them dead and made sure to make that happen. The murders looked clean, as in a hit. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Trolling for Murder: The Killing of Billy and Billie Jean.’Listener Discretion courtesy of @octoberpodVHSMusic is courtesy of our executive producer @wetalkofdreamsSources:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m40-nbJzKLEhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/social-media-feud-led-murder-young-tennessee-couple/story?id=34346840https://lawandcrime.com/crime/matriarch-of-tennessee-family-convicted-of-infamous-facebook-murders-pleads-guilty-after-being-granted-new-trial/https://www.wjhl.com/news/local/mother-daughter-convicted-in-facebook-murders-case-to-appear-in-court-tuesday/https://www.timesnews.net/one-of-three-facebook-murder-convictions-overturned-mother-granted-new-trial/article_4aea9524-0618-11ec-a093-8b71991a842d.htmlhttps://www.thetomahawk.com/news/article_495b5c6e-83ce-541f-92b3-26b9a209e73c.htmlhttps://law.justia.com/cases/tennessee/court-of-criminal-appeals/2019/e2015-02261-cca-r3-cd.htmlhttps://lawandcrime.com/crime/matriarch-of-tennessee-family-convicted-of-infamous-facebook-murders-pleads-guilty-after-being-granted-n/ew-trial Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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17.  On The Edge Of Sanity: Dale Merle Nelson Part 2 Remastered Sound

17. On The Edge Of Sanity: Dale Merle Nelson Part 2 Remastered Sound

Part 2 In 1970, after a day of heavy drinking, Dale went on a rampage and murdered 8 people. Not much has been published about Dale's killing spree, so we set out to find all the details.Join us as we talk about Dale and his decent into madness. Or was he really insane?Warning: These episodes deal with graphic violence and details not meant for kids to hear. Or for anyone to hear really. Please be aware that it may contain triggers and cause nightmares. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

9 Marras 201856min

17. On The Edge Of Sanity: Dale Merle Nelson Part 1 Remastered Sound

17. On The Edge Of Sanity: Dale Merle Nelson Part 1 Remastered Sound

In 1970, after a day of heavy drinking, Dale went on a rampage and murdered 8 people. Not much has been published about Dale's killing spree, so we set out to find all the details.Join us as we talk about Dale and his decent into madness. Or was he really insane?Warning: These episodes deal with graphic violence and details not meant for kids to hear. Or for anyone to hear really. Please be aware that it may contain triggers and cause nightmares.Promos this week are from our friends:We Too andMoms And MurderLinksThe Limits of Sanity By Larry Still: Book is out of PrintWiki Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

8 Marras 201846min

Our Halloween Episode :  Three Mile House Remastered Sound

Our Halloween Episode : Three Mile House Remastered Sound

Happy Halloween 2018!Since it's our favorite time of the year, we decided to do something more ghostly that murdery. Join us as we tell a few personal unexplained happenings. Then Jen tells us about her favorite haunted house close to St Louis. We bet you've never heard of this place!This week we have promos from our friends:It's Haunted...Now What http://hauntedpod.comFlorida Men https://floridamenpodcast.comExtra special shout out to Cam. She spent HOURS putting this baby together! Thanks, buddy!LinkHaunted Odyssey by Jim Longo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 Marras 20181h 3min

16. The Killer Next Door: William Lester Suff :The Riverside Killer-Remastered Sound

16. The Killer Next Door: William Lester Suff :The Riverside Killer-Remastered Sound

A man searching for cans thinks he sees a mannequin. As the man got closer, he could see it was not a mannequin but the body of a young woman. There were few clues but sadly it wouldn’t be long before this California killer would again come calling. And again. And again and many more times. This is the story of a man who lived a seemingly normal life right alongside the officers who were desperately looking for a madman. Little did they realize he was right in front of them. Please join us as we discuss the ‘Riverside Killer’ also known as the ‘Lake Elsinore Killer’ William Suff. "19th Victim Is Linked to a Killer," New York Times, December 26, 1991.https://archive.nytimes.com/query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage-9502E0D71F39F93AA15753C1A963958260.htmlReal Detective: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6057504/https://www.pe.com/2014/04/28/riverside-county-death-penalty-upheld-for-serial-killer-william-suff/"Man Charged in Prostitute Slayings in California," New York Times, January 15, 1992.https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/20/us/jury-asks-for-death-penalty-for-convicted-killer-of-12-women.html"Suspect in 19 Killings Indicted in California," New York Times, July 29, 1992."Man Is Indicted in 14 Killings in California," New York Times, July 30, 1992."Homicidal Mania: The Fifteen Most Horrific Murder Cases Ever to Shock America" by Bill Kelly at CyberSleuths.https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/brian-alan-with-william-suff-lane/cat-and-mouse-mind-games-with-a-serial-killer/"Californian Is Guilty in Killing of 12 Prostitutes," New York Times, July 20, 1995."Jury Asks for Death Penalty for Convicted Killer of 12 Women," New York Times, August 20, 1995."Killer of Prostitutes Gets Death Sentence," New York Times, October 29, 1995. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

24 Loka 201840min

15. Killer Looks: John Norman Collins and the Michigan Murders Remastered Sound

15. Killer Looks: John Norman Collins and the Michigan Murders Remastered Sound

It started in July of 1967.  Young women in a small college town started to go missing.  They would later be found dead. Their bodies mutilated.  It would be two years before the killer would be found. No one suspected the cute, clean cut college kid.Looks can be deadly.Don't forget to stay for the out takes!Music by Nico https://wetalkofdreams.com/Promos from our friends:OctoberpodVHS  https://tinyurl.com/y8d8mervBrewcrime  https://brewcrime.com/http://www.annarbor.com/news/the-michigan-murders-is-one-of-those-rare-books-you-re-read-because-the-suspense-remains/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_murdersA Crime to RememberA New Kind of Monster, December 10, 2013 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=799&dat=19690418&id=5UIvAAAAIBAJ&sjid=H0gDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5077,1050722&hl=enKeyes, Edward (1976). The Michigan Murders. U.S.A.: Reader's Digest Press. ISBN 978-0-472-03446-8.https://aadl.org/node/89932https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/539/597/244231/https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=799&dat=19690328&id=A5NPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Q1IDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7183,101354&hl=enhttps://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1817&dat=19690629&id=q180AAAAIBAJ&sjid=B5wEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7380,5848198&hl=enhttp://www.annarbor.com/news/the-michigan-murders-is-one-of-those-rare-books-you-re-read-because-the-suspense-remains/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

18 Loka 201852min

14. Poisoned Truth Remastered Sound

14. Poisoned Truth Remastered Sound

Imagine losing your entire family to murder and the police blame you for the heinous crime. You are then locked up for life in prison.Poisoned Truth is the story about lies, hidden depositions and lost documents.  It's a story about a flawed system. One that failed a family and community.PromosKillafornia Dreaming--Killaforniadreaming.comMythical Podcast-- linktr.ee/mythicalpodcast And of course our awesome music was composed by Nico at We Talk of Dreams-- wetalkofdreams.comhttps://www.freedommag.org/magazine/201702-the-data-demon/investigation/poisoned-justice.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Joseph_Richardsonhttps://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/orange-picker-wrongfully-convicted-of-murder-is-subject-of-fliff-documentary-7340585https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/finally-fla-law-signed-to-pay-man-wrongfully-held-/ngPkZ/"Delayed Justice". The Miami Herald. December 13, 1988.https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1320&dat=19890426&id=xkpWAAAAIBAJ&sjid=LuoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3494,8744691https://www.cltampa.com/arts-entertainment/film-tv/article/21022310/watch-this-free-film-about-a-black-arcadia-man-wrongfully-imprisoned-for-21-years-for-killing-his-seven-childrenhttps://web.archive.org/web/20130601183243/http://www.victimsofthestate.org/FL/Richardson.htmlhttps://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1988-10-09-0070310020-story.html  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

10 Loka 201839min

13. Posed For Murder: Debbie Gama Remastered Sound

13. Posed For Murder: Debbie Gama Remastered Sound

Debbie Gama was 16 years old when she stormed out of her house, like most teens she was upset about a fight with her mother.Debbie never came back home. Her body was found 5 days later in Cussewago Creek. The town was shocked when they found out who was responsible for her death.And we were shocked to find out who else shows up in this web of murderers.Be sure to listen all the way to the very end, we shared a few out takes? New music by Nico at We Talk of DreamsPromos: Ignorance Was Bliss Heartland HomicideSpecial thanks to Lanie at True Crime Fan Club for suggesting Nico! LinksFind Law.comFox NewJustiaVarious Articles~Newspapers.comRichard's BlogErie's History and Memorabilia Facebook Page Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

3 Loka 201833min

12.  Blood on the Bayou Remastered Sound

12. Blood on the Bayou Remastered Sound

It was July 1997, when 19-year-old David Mitchell's body was found near Hahnville, Louisana. Six months later in December 1997, the body of 20-year-old Gary Pierre was found in St. Charles Parish followed by the discovery of the body of 38-year-old Larry Ranson in July 1998. Young men were being murdered at an alarming rate in and around the party capital of the south. The victimology was telling the police that these young men were connected but it also told them that their greatest fear was about to be confirmed. There was a serial killer on the loose and he was just getting started. Join us as we discuss the Bayou Blue strangler on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.Michelle Hunter (December 5, 2006). Serial-killer suspect confesses; Trysts led to rapes, strangling, cops told. NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune.https://web.archive.org/web/20080714031044/http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/publish/article_4154.phphttps://www.houmatimes.com/search/?sd=desc&l=25&sort=relevance&f=html&t=article%2Cvideo%2Cyoutube%2Ccollection&app%5B0%5D=editorial&nsa=eedition&q=+Ronald+Dominique&o=0Lloyd Vries (December 5, 2006). Louisiana Man Confesses To 23 Slayings. CBS News | Associated Press.Mary Foster (December 5, 2006). From a meek “nobody” to a serial killer? The Seattle Times.Staff (September 24, 2008). Gay serial killer convicted in Louisiana. The Telegraph.Bayou Blue https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HXXG48E___ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

26 Syys 201825min

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