The Best People with Nicolle Wallace27 Heinä

Sue Gordon: Trump’s Approach to Intel is “Breathtakingly Reckless"

Sue Gordon is indefatigable. Nicolle calls her a “unicorn”: a rare case of somebody who served with honor and integrity as the Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence — and who Donald Trump, at least for a while, kept around. “I am for America,” Gordon says, declaring that as her North Star. Throughout her decorated career in intelligence, Gordon has always understood that telling the truth is imperative in keeping the president informed and the nation safe. She talks bluntly about the administration putting innocent people in harm’s way in Iran, calls Jay Clayton’s refusal to state that Joe Biden won the 2020 election during his confirmation hearing “100% disqualifying” and points to Trump being “more cruel” in his second term. She does not believe, however, that the president cannot be reasoned with. Taking a beat, she says: “Maybe I need to call him.”

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Tim Snyder on the “Tiny Infinitesimal Amount of Courage” We Need

Tim Snyder sees through the myth of President Trump’s strength. “He’s not actually strong,” the “On Tyranny” author and historian tells Nicolle, likening the Commander in Chief to the smoke and mirror...

17 Elo 38min

Marc Elias: We’re Not Heading Towards the Precipice — “We’re There”

Marc Elias is adamant: what’s dangerous in this era is that many people think President Trump’s second term is just business as usual. As the administration works to undermine fair elections ahead of ...

10 Elo 52min

Brian Driscoll on the Hollowing Out of the FBI: "It's Devastating”

Brian Driscoll doesn’t have to be a “hopeful guy” — and yet, he is. A year ago, he was fired as acting director of the FBI after resisting demands to hand over the names of agents who worked on Januar...

3 Elo 1h

Heather Cox Richardson on America’s Vibe Shift

If historian Heather Cox Richardson ever had an agenda, it’d be protecting democracy. The history professor and author of the “Letters from an American” Substack joins Nicolle this week to consider th...

20 Heinä 57min

Rachel Maddow: Donald Trump is ‘Emotionally Incontinent’

Nicolle sits down with her dear friend and colleague Rachel Maddow for a revealing conversation about the state of the nation and Rachel's coverage of the Trump administration's cruel and violent immi...

16 Heinä 18min

Jim Acosta Is Still Asking the Tough Questions

Jim Acosta is pretty sure that when 60 Minutes is in trouble, we're all in trouble. A year and a half after stepping down from a storied career as a White House correspondent and anchor at CNN, the in...

13 Heinä 50min

Sen. Raphael Warnock: "The Power is in the People. It's Not the People in Power”

Senator and Pastor Raphael Warnock recognizes that “Democracy is the house we live in. It's the context in which we get to fight.” Coming off the release of his new book, “The Crooked Places Made Stra...

6 Heinä 50min