E33 Help or Harm? The Fine Line in Coaching & Transformation w/ Ann Betz

E33 Help or Harm? The Fine Line in Coaching & Transformation w/ Ann Betz

In this episode we meet up with Ann Betz, Co-founder of BEabove Leadership and an expert on the intersection of neuroscience, coaching, trauma and human transformation. Ann speaks, trains and coaches internationally, and writes about neuroscience and coaching as well as relational trauma.


TRIGGER Warning … In this episode we discuss employment abuse, domestic abuse and strangulation specifically from the 38m - 43m mark. If you have experienced these types of behaviors in any environment this discussion could be triggering or upsetting. Please take care of yourself.


Together we explore the nuances of coaching, the impact of neuroscience on personal development, and the challenges of navigating toxic relationships. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the line between genuine coaching and manipulation. Through our personal experience and professional insights, we aim to shed light on the complexities of enrollment in transformational programs, the impact of self-worth on personal growth, and the nuances of long-term transformation. We discuss the importance of perception shifts, the four levels required to integrate any “transformation” or new understanding as well as the role of emotions in personal development. The dialogue emphasizes the need for integration and stabilization in the growth process, while also questioning who truly benefits from these transformational spaces.


RESOURCES: Learn more about Ann’s coaching www.beaboveleadershsip.com You can also follow her blog about narcissism www.butnowIknowyourname.wordpress.com

Read Anne’s Book Is This A Cult: Confronting the Line Between Exploitation and Transformation and find other pods and resources → https://isthisacultbook.com/


If you or someone you know is wrestling with recovery after being involved in a high-control group, relationship or any organization, check out the Healthy Healing and Recovery Group w/ Rachel Bernstein https://ilumn8.life/op/lgat-recovery-...


MODERATION NOTE: While healthy debate and discussion regarding the topics being discussed is encouraged, personal (ad hominem) attacks on people, places or things will be deleted.


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E68: 11 Years Inside a Buddhist Community: A Cult Researcher on Spiritual Abuse and Trauma-Coerced Attachment

E68: 11 Years Inside a Buddhist Community: A Cult Researcher on Spiritual Abuse and Trauma-Coerced Attachment

A cult researcher spent 11 years inside a Buddhist community, rising to her teacher's inner circle, before a spiritual crisis broke it open.CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains open discussion of sp...

9 Elo 1h 16min

SPECIAL: Nobody Taught Us How to Keep Our Minds Safe — Until Now

SPECIAL: Nobody Taught Us How to Keep Our Minds Safe — Until Now

Anne Peterson and Chris Shelton — author of What Now: A Practical Guide to Life After a Cult — are teaming up for a 21-week workshop designed for anyone who has ever found themselves in a group, relat...

28 Kesä 22min

E67 She Thought She'd Left. A Panic Attack in Costco Proved She Hadn't. | Susan Stirling

E67 She Thought She'd Left. A Panic Attack in Costco Proved She Hadn't. | Susan Stirling

She thought she had left. She had walked away from the church, built a career, created a new life. Then a panic attack in a Costco in the early days of the pandemic stopped her cold — and told her the...

23 Kesä 1h 9min

E64 When Blowing the Whistle Gets You Sued: A Landmark Legal Victory

E64 When Blowing the Whistle Gets You Sued: A Landmark Legal Victory

CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains open discussion of psychological harm, coercive control, and alleged physical abuse in an employment context. If you are a survivor of a high-control group or wo...

8 Kesä 53min

SPECIAL: Lost in the Work: How Harmful Programming Rewires the Mind

SPECIAL: Lost in the Work: How Harmful Programming Rewires the Mind

Children of the Forum is a special series on Confronting the Line, hosted by Lindsey Hartzel, exploring the lasting impact of Large Group Awareness Trainings on young people and those shaped by high-c...

3 Touko 1h 19min

E63 Cara Cordone | She Tried to Reform the Group That Harmed Her — Here's What She Found

E63 Cara Cordone | She Tried to Reform the Group That Harmed Her — Here's What She Found

Cara Cordone thought she'd found her people. Then she tried to fix what was broken — and discovered the damage was by design.In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, Anne sits down with Cara Cordone —...

18 Huhti 50min

 E62 The Slow Burn: The Guru Promises Love. What You Get Instead

E62 The Slow Burn: The Guru Promises Love. What You Get Instead

What happens when the very tools meant to help us grow are turned against us?In this episode, host Anne sits down with Kellie Rhea — an Australian entrepreneur, former animal behaviorist, and horseman...

30 Maalis 1h 15min

 E61 Can You Be Manipulated? The Honest Answer Might Surprise You

E61 Can You Be Manipulated? The Honest Answer Might Surprise You

If you've ever thought "I would never fall for that" — this conversation is for you.Anne sits down with author and researcher Jon Caven-Atack (If Scientology Ruled the World, Opening Our Minds) for a ...

21 Maalis 53min

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