Part Two Of "What Is Purgatory?"
Walking With Dante21 Touko 2023

Part Two Of "What Is Purgatory?"

In this interpolated episode of the podcast WALKING WITH DANTE, let's look at some Biblical passages that may pertain to Purgatory. Medieval theologians used these verses to codify, justify, and elaborate on the brand-new doctrine.

Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as I look at these five texts to find the rationales behind this new doctrine, brought into church theology formally only a few decades before Dante wrote COMEDY (and not fully codified into church doctrine until long after Dante's death). We can truthfully say that Dante's imagination is one of the most competent architects of Purgatory itself.

Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE:

[02:30] Psalm 49: 13 - 15 and the problem of Sheol (or perhaps "the pit" or "the grave") and its increasingly complex geography over the course of its conception.

[05:42] II Maccabees 12: 39 - 45 and the notion that the living can indeed do something to aid the dead, even idolators.

[10:39] The Gospel Of Luke 16: 19 - 26 and the question of where exactly the poor man Lazarus goes when he dies and heads off to find comfort near Abraham.

[16:47] I Corinthians 3: 11 - 15 and St Paul's notion that in the resurrection, even the redeemed will judged by fire.

[20:11] Philippians 2: 9 - 11 and the strange, slightly baffling tripartite division of the afterlife.

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Plato and Beatrice, Together At Last: PARADISO, Canto IV, Lines 49 - 63

Plato and Beatrice, Together At Last: PARADISO, Canto IV, Lines 49 - 63

Beatrice continues her rectification of Dante's doubts by using a passage from Plato's TIMAEUS to turn her argument from accommodation to free will.This passage contains perhaps the heart of Beatrice'...

11 Loka 26min

Seeing Is (Almost) Believing: PARADISO, Canto IV, Lines 28 - 48

Seeing Is (Almost) Believing: PARADISO, Canto IV, Lines 28 - 48

Beatrice begins to take apart the two questions (or doubts) that she has intuited the pilgrim Dante is holding in silence.She first takes on the one with more "poison" in this passage, in which she re...

4 Loka 28min

Paralyzed by Free Will: PARADISO, Canto IV, Lines 1 - 27

Paralyzed by Free Will: PARADISO, Canto IV, Lines 1 - 27

Piccarda may have vanished but questions remain. The pilgrim Dante is caught between them, unable to voice them.Beatrice to the rescue! She voices what he cannot say . . . or perhaps what he is afraid...

30 Syys 28min

The Expanding Community of Women in the Moon: PARADISO, Canto III, Lines 109 - 130

The Expanding Community of Women in the Moon: PARADISO, Canto III, Lines 109 - 130

Piccarda Donati doesn’t stop her monologue with the cryptic line about her life after the convent. She turns to another figure in the lunar landscape: Constance I of Sicily, the Holy Roman Empress and...

23 Syys 23min

The Violent yet Elliptical End to Piccarda Donati's Story: PARADISO, Canto III, Lines 88 - 108

The Violent yet Elliptical End to Piccarda Donati's Story: PARADISO, Canto III, Lines 88 - 108

Piccarda Donati finally answers the question about who she is. She's given her name but not much else about her. In twelve lines (or four tercets) she brings her personal story to its violent yet elli...

20 Syys 27min

Piccarda Donati's Apotheosis of the Will: PARADISO, Canto III, Lines 58 - 87

Piccarda Donati's Apotheosis of the Will: PARADISO, Canto III, Lines 58 - 87

Piccarda has confessed to her more humble place in the heavens. Our pilgrim Dante then wants to know if she wants more.Her answer leads her to an apotheosis of the will. Everything in the universe is ...

16 Syys 30min

The First Soul in Paradise, Piccarda Donati: PARADISO, Canto III, Lines 34 - 57

The First Soul in Paradise, Piccarda Donati: PARADISO, Canto III, Lines 34 - 57

At long last, the first soul--or "shade"--steps forward in Paradise. She's Piccarda Donati, a figure we've already encountered once (maybe even twice) in COMEDY.Dante flatters her to speak and she beg...

13 Syys 29min

Catching Feelings in the Sensual Sphere of the Moon: PARADISO, Canto III, Lines 1 - 33

Catching Feelings in the Sensual Sphere of the Moon: PARADISO, Canto III, Lines 1 - 33

Dante is about to meet the first souls in Paradise, emerging from the liquid light of the moon.The poetry is lush and sensuous. The metaphors are complex and compounded. And Beatrice is a bit chilly, ...

9 Syys 28min