Tracey Thorn has got it all going on at 60 - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Tracey Thorn has got it all going on at 60 - THE SHIFT REVISITED

While we take our summer hiatus we're revisiting some classic episodes of The Shift with Sam Baker. Since I recorded this interview with Tracey back at the start of 2021, she and her partner Ben Watt have released a new Everything But The Girl album, Fuse, that's rocketed them back into the charts. Like many 80s kids, I grew up with today’s guest. Tracey Thorn started early, forming The Marine Girls (once described as looking like they would “break your arm before they’d let you break their hearts”), while still at school, and Everything But The Girl, with her musical and life partner Ben Watt, whilst at university. Since then she’s released three solo albums, three critically acclaimed memoirs - and had three children. Her fourth book - My Rock’n’Roll Friend - about her 37 year on-off friendship with Lindy Morrison (drummer of Australian band The Go-Betweens) is my favourite yet. Tracey talks success, power, the “constant slog” of making women’s voices heard and why equality is a numbers game. She also tells us why menopause made her feel like she’d gone mad, the painful-but-liberating process of ageing and what to do about your statement hair going grey (asking for a friend!). You can buy all the books mentioned in this podcast at Bookshop.org, including the book that accompanies this podcast, The Shift: how I lost and found myself after 40 - and you can too by Sam Baker and My Rock'n'Roll Friend by Tracey Thorn. The Shift (on life after 40) with Sam Baker is created and hosted by Sam Baker and edited by Emily Sandford. I'd love to hear what you think - please rate and review, or let me know on twitter @sambaker or instagram @theothersambaker. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Charlotte Mendelson – middle-aged women are entitled to want more

Charlotte Mendelson – middle-aged women are entitled to want more

This season is dedicated to helping you pick your summer reads and my guest today is the novelist Charlotte Mendelson whose writing has been compared to “late Shakespeare meets Modern family!” So you ...

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Betsy Lerner is on a mission to destigmatise mental health in her 60s

Betsy Lerner is on a mission to destigmatise mental health in her 60s

My guest this week is the novelist Betsy Lerner.  Now Betsy is here to talk about her critically acclaimed debut novel, Shred Sisters, which takes us from the 1970s to the 90s and tells us the stor...

19 Elo 202550min

Nicola Sturgeon on life after leadership

Nicola Sturgeon on life after leadership

This week I’m delighted to welcome back to The Shift one of my most listened-to guests, Nicola Sturgeon. When we last spoke, at the start of 2022, Nicola was First Minister of Scotland - the first ...

12 Elo 202556min

Sarah Perry on "becoming a woman who didn't have children"

Sarah Perry on "becoming a woman who didn't have children"

My guest today is the award-winning novelist Sarah Perry. Sarah is the internationally bestselling author of four novels, but the one you will almost definitely heard of (and may well have watched) i...

5 Elo 202556min

Glynnis MacNicol: everything you've been told about being a middle-aged woman is a lie

Glynnis MacNicol: everything you've been told about being a middle-aged woman is a lie

What happens when the life you find yourself leading in midlife doesn’t tick all the supposed boxes? That’s the situation today’s guest found herself in. Glynnis MacNicol was 46 - a woman of a so-cal...

29 Heinä 20251h 2min

Steph McGovern on money, menopause & staying out of your lane

Steph McGovern on money, menopause & staying out of your lane

Crime novels might not be the first thing that springs to mind when you hear the name Steph McGovern. Steph is an award-winning broadcaster who is currently co-host of The Rest Is Money podcast with R...

22 Heinä 20251h 8min

Alison Bechdel on tarot, ageing & why men are scared of women who can do push-ups!  - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Alison Bechdel on tarot, ageing & why men are scared of women who can do push-ups! - THE SHIFT REVISITED

The last of our archive episodes this time around is the cartoonist Alison Bechdel. Spent, Alison's new graphic novel-come-memoir, reminded me of the conversation we had back in 2021. Here it is... -...

15 Heinä 202540min

Esther Freud on upending your life in your 50s - THE SHIFT REVISITED

Esther Freud on upending your life in your 50s - THE SHIFT REVISITED

This week we're going way back in The Shift archives, to one of the earliest episodes I recorded with novelist Esther Freud. This summer Esther will be a guest of The Shift bookclub, to talk about her...

8 Heinä 202542min

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