6: Did Rex Heuermann Alleged Gilgo Beach Murderer Have Accomplice?

Public perceptions play a crucial role in high-profile criminal cases. In the recent episode of "Hidden Killers," Tony Brueski, in conversation with Robin Dreeke, retired FBI Special Agent, unveils the intricate dynamics surrounding Asa Ellerup, wife of the suspected serial killer, Rex Heuermann. Their conversation sheds light on Ellerup's peculiar requests and actions following her husband's arrest, raising unsettling questions about her relationship with Heuermann and the nature of her public appearances.    "Ever since all this transpired, we've been keenly observing his family, especially since they've been so prominently visible," Brueski remarked. One peculiar detail that emerged was Ellerup's request to retrieve the hundreds of guns confiscated from their property. "She claims they're marital property, potentially worth hundreds of thousands," Brueski notes. However, with an active investigation on her husband in the backdrop, such a demand seems out of place.    Ellerup's motivations and the nature of her relationship with Heuermann remain shrouded in mystery. "I don't find it strange that she's in need of money or is attempting to reclaim property," Brueski contemplates. "But the essence of their relationship, its intricacies, that's what's truly baffling."    Brueski further recalled a report illustrating Heuermann's concerning behavior, where he obsessively stalked a co-worker. This raises pressing questions about Ellerup's awareness or involvement in her husband's actions. Dreeke chimes in with a compelling theory: "Could it be trauma bonding?" This psychological phenomenon occurs when victims develop a sense of loyalty or affection (often mistaken for love) towards their abusers due to the cycle of violence.    Dreeke observes, "We're only getting small glimpses of her, mostly when she's raising complaints. We need to understand her motivations, her background, her life's arc." This perspective is essential, especially when public optics present her mostly as a victim.    The conversation takes a turn as they delve deeper into Heuermann's choice in Ellerup as a partner. Dreeke postulates, "To maintain his façade, he would need a partner who's non-emotional, pragmatic, and importantly, not a deep thinker." This leads to an understanding that Ellerup was potentially chosen as she was less likely to question or challenge Heuermann's behaviors.    Another intriguing revelation is Ellerup's swift decision to divorce Heuermann once his alleged crimes came to light. "Was the divorce a reaction to public disclosure, or was it her realization of his true nature?" Brueski ponders. The duo surmise that while Ellerup might be attempting to use public opinion for sympathy, her strategies might be backfiring due to a lack of experience.    Despite the numerous theories, the true nature of their relationship remains speculative. As Dreeke aptly summarizes, "It's easy to armchair quarterback this, but the optics thus far haven't been very favorable."    The "Hidden Killers" podcast episode offers a unique perspective into the complex layers surrounding high-profile criminal cases. Beyond the primary suspect, the lives and actions of their close family members also come under scrutiny, leading to a web of theories and speculations. Asa Ellerup, with her puzzling requests and opaque motivations, undoubtedly adds another layer of mystery to the enigma that is the Heuermann case. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

18 Syys 20237min

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

17 Syys 20236min

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

17 Syys 20237min

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

16 Syys 202310min

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

16 Syys 20238min

The enigmatic case of Rex Heuermann takes another complex twist as former FBI Special Agent and regular "Hidden Killers" contributor, Jennifer Coffindaffer, joins host Tony Brueski for a deep dive into the current speculations. Their discussion addresses the weight of eyewitness testimony, investigates family involvement, and explores the intricacies surrounding the crime scenes. As the conversation unfolds, questions on credibility, potential oversights, and inherent challenges in piecing together a decade-long puzzle emerge.    Tony Brueski initiates the dialogue, referencing John Ray, the attorney for some of the Gilgo Beach victims and for the Heuermann family. Ray has been explicit about his concerns regarding the Heuermann family, especially Asa Ellerup, suggesting a closer investigation into their potential involvement. Ray posits that this might be a "large criminal enterprise" that Heuermann is a part of. However, the attorney representing the Heuermann family was quick to dismiss these allegations, viewing them as a mere "thirst for the spotlight."    Navigating through past events, Brueski delves into the era predating Heuermann’s involvement, focusing on the unsolved mystery of the Gilgo Beach victims. The debate centers on whether it's prudent to cast a wider net of suspicion that includes Asa Ellerup and other close acquaintances of Heuermann. Coffindaffer chimes in with her seasoned perspective, affirming the need for a thorough investigation. "They would be remiss not to," she asserts, emphasizing that the authorities would undoubtedly "take a look at anyone and everyone that could have been complicit."    The speculation surrounding the crimes possibly occurring at Heuermann’s residence becomes another focal point of their conversation. While some argue for this theory, citing its simplicity, Coffindaffer reminds listeners that there's no confirmation either way. If the crimes did happen within that household, the implications would be dire. Yet, in the absence of concrete evidence, she articulates the need to explore all possible scenarios.    Shifting gears, Brueski introduces another layer of intrigue with the Julia Ann Bean case in South Carolina. A statement from Bean’s daughter, upon seeing Heuermann’s photograph, asserted that he was the last man she saw with her mother. The reliability of such eyewitness testimonies becomes a topic of contention. Coffindaffer elaborates, "Literally, the least reliable information in conducting a case is eyewitness testimony." While acknowledging Heuermann’s distinctive appearance could bolster the credibility of such claims, she reiterates the paramount importance of independent corroboration.    The broader narrative from this "Hidden Killers" episode encapsulates the challenges and intricacies inherent in high-profile investigations. Coffindaffer's insights underscore the need for meticulous scrutiny, a balanced approach, and the value of corroboration in weaving together a credible narrative. As the Rex Heuermann case continues to unravel, audiences and investigators alike are left grappling with the complexities of discerning truth amidst a sea of conjectures. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

15 Syys 20236min

The arrest of Rex Heuermann has left both the public and his family grappling with his complex character. A recent episode of the popular podcast, "Hidden Killers," delved into the intricate web of emotions and queries surrounding his arrest, raising pertinent questions about family bonds and psychology. How do families cope when they discover the grim realities lurking beneath their loved one's facade?    "It appears that he was dad and that he was a husband," states the show's host, Tony Brueski. Indeed, this revelation is an emotional tempest for Heuermann's adult children. They have been incommunicado since his arrest. As the hosts deliberate, how do offspring reconcile with the fact that their beloved parent might have been a two-faced monster? Psychotherapist and author, Shavaun Scott weighs in, suggesting that "most of the time it's probably healthier for them to... cut the ties." The weight of processing two contradictory identities - a doting father and a possible criminal - might be too much for the human psyche.    The podcast further delves into the deep-seated struggle of establishing communication with a family member implicated in heinous crimes. "Is it ever a good thing to maintain that [relationship]?," Tony probes. Scott believes that while it might be therapeutic for some to confront their relative, she's skeptical of any tangible positive outcome from such a conversation. In cases where family members do engage, the conversations often revolve around processing their horror and disbelief.    However, Heuermann isn't just a case study in family dynamics; the podcast shines light on suspicions that link him to an unsolved case in South Carolina. A potential witness, the daughter of the victim, Julia Ann Bean, claims she recognized Heuermann from a photo, exclaiming, "I've seen him. That was the last man I saw with her personally." Yet, Scott cautions against relying too heavily on eyewitness testimony. She highlights that "eyewitness statements to murders are notoriously unreliable," referencing several cases where wrongful convictions occurred based on such testimonies. The reliability of this connection to Heuermann thus remains questionable.    Perhaps one of the most chilling parts of the discussion centers around Heuermann's workplace behavior. Reports suggest he preferred hiring petite women resembling the alleged victims' description. Further, Heuermann would often gleefully describe the process of "dressing the game," delighting in the shock he evoked from his colleagues. While some might see these behaviors as red flags, Scott opines that while this could be "relevant to a psychologist doing a thorough evaluation of his personality," its admissibility in court might be controversial.    As listeners grapple with the contrasting images of Heuermann - a family man versus a potential criminal mastermind - "Hidden Killers" challenges them to reflect on the complexities of human relationships. The episode underscores the fragile nature of trust, the pain of betrayal, and the struggle to understand the dark depths of those we hold dear. In a world where the lines between good and evil often blur, the revelations about Heuermann's life and character are a stark reminder of the mysteries that lie hidden beneath the surface. As investigations proceed and trials loom ahead, one can only hope that truth and justice will prevail. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

14 Syys 20237min

In a riveting episode of the acclaimed "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski joins forces with the sagacious mind of retired FBI Special Agent, Robin Dreeke. As they peel back the layers of the Rex Heuermann case, a saga brimming with allegations, speculations, and alleged injustices, the narrative takes unexpected turns, particularly when the involvement and treatment of Heuermann's family come under the spotlight. Rex Heuermann's recent arrest has thrust him into the limelight, sparking a nationwide debate and presenting a myriad of questions regarding the repercussions on his family. Tony Brueski poses a poignant reflection on this aspect, referencing "talk and speculation about the family themselves," especially concerning Heuermann's children and his soon-to-be ex-wife. This family angle has grown in significance with John Ray, the attorney for the victims of the Gilgo Beach incident, suggesting a deeper dive into the family's potential ties. Brueski encapsulates Ray's sentiments, saying there's a call for "a closer look at this family, not just immediately wiping them away." The family's legal representation swiftly counters, asserting that "these allegations shouldn't even be dignified with a response." Yet, the discourse isn't merely about pointing fingers or sowing seeds of doubt. Robin Dreeke, with his reservoir of FBI experience, brings a nuanced perspective to the table. For Dreeke, investigations have always been about breadth and depth. "You know, as investigators, you investigate everything," he underscores. His contention isn't about implicating the family but valuing their proximity to Heuermann, which could unravel previously overlooked facets of the case. Drawing on statistical probabilities, Dreeke elaborates, "the chances of them being aware of anything [criminal] are slim to none." However, their long-standing association with Heuermann could make them instrumental in shading in the missing parts of the puzzle. Such invaluable insights aren't novel in crime investigations. Dreeke cites the instance of the BTK killer, emphasizing the revelation potential when law enforcement fosters open dialogues with family members. "They might be aware of trips he took during time periods that might coincide with other murders, with other missing people and things like that," Dreeke articulates, pushing for a more inclusive approach to investigations. Yet, the Heuermann narrative isn't a linear tale of chasing leads. It's a tapestry woven with allegations of mistreatment meted out to the family by law enforcement. Brueski pulls no punches as he touches upon how the family's residence was "destroyed" during the investigative process. Such adversarial stances, Dreeke postulates, run the risk of "making an enemy out of your possible allies and resources." Intriguingly, as the conversation pivots to the underpinnings of such oversight, one term recurrently emerges: "Leadership." Dreeke, connecting the dots from past events, such as escapes from Pennsylvania prisons, opines that systemic inadequacies often trace back to the leadership helm. Brueski, sharing this sentiment, remarks, "I think the thing that tainted this years ago was that chief [who] has now been arrested." But the podcast episode doesn't merely chronicle the specifics of the case; it morphs into a broader rumination on the ethos of law enforcement. Dreeke broaches the inherent biases officers might harbor due to their incessant brushes with society's underbelly. "Your first inclination a lot of times is not, 'Hey, let's partner with these people'," he observes, stressing the need for collaboration, especially with those connected to the accused. In the final analysis, Brueski and Dreeke accentuate the imperative for a holistic and humane approach to investigations. Their call to arms isn't just for thoroughness but also for empathy. As Dreeke envisions a dedicated "point person" to bridge law enforcement and the family, the overarching message is clear: investigations must be both incisive and inclusive, ensuring justice doesn't become a casualty in the pursuit of truth.

14 Syys 202310min