48: Should Police Take A Closer Look At Rex Heuermann's Wife?
In the latest episode of the esteemed "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski invited psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott to shed light on one of the most riveting and controversial aspects of the Heuermann murder case — the involvement of Rex Heuermann's wife. The role of Heuermann’s wife has been brought into sharp focus due to allegations from John Ray, who, in various interviews with News Nation, the New York Post, and "Hidden Killers," suggests that she be considered not merely a bystander but a potential suspect. True Crime Today and Hidden Killers Podcast does not have proof of what Ray is suggesting. Authorities had initially ruled out any involvement of Heuermann’s wife, Asa Ellerup, stating that she had alibi at the time of the crimes. "Her hair was, there was more of her hair found on the victims than Rex's," Brueski stated, hinting at the puzzling evidences that have raised eyebrows. However, he was quick to offer alternate explanations, suggesting that items like burlap sacks in the house could be a source of such contamination. The debate stems from Ray’s assertive claims that he possesses evidence indicating Heuermann's wife's awareness and possible complicity in the murder of at least three women discovered on Gilgo Beach. While these are strong allegations, Brueski underscored that they have no intention of making these claims, instead highlighting the importance of examining these assertions. Scott, an experienced psychotherapist, offered a clinical viewpoint, drawing parallels with her own practice. She reflected on how it's not uncommon for women to discover secrets about their partners after decades of marriage. "People can be incredibly good at deception," Scott noted, underscoring that it doesn't automatically mean that Heuermann's wife had any knowledge or involvement. However, what really takes the cake in this unfolding drama is the police's decision to rule her out as a suspect based on her purported absence during some of the murders. Brueski, not without skepticism, remarked, "Is that strong or do you feel and from experience, do you think that law enforcement has already taken a deep dive into her?" On the same note, establishing a GoFundMe campaign for Heuermann's wife raised eyebrows, particularly considering reports of the Heuermann family's substantial assets. "Is this someone who needs a GoFundMe for anything?" Brueski questioned. Furthermore, as the conversation deepened, Brueski and Scott expressed their bewilderment at the disproportionate attention on the Heuermann family instead of the victims. The nature of the victims, primarily alleged sex workers, played a role in this skewed focus, as per Scott. "The women in most danger are sex workers," Scott commented, drawing comparisons to the victims of other notorious serial killers, like Sam Little. Concluding their discussion, Scott emphasized the need for society to extend empathy to such victims rather than sidelining their stories. As the Heuermann case unravels, the hope is that justice will shine its light not just on the guilty but also honor the memories of the lost. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
22 Elo 202312min
48: Did Police Over-Damage Heuermann's House During Raid?
In a recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski dives deep into the unsettling incident surrounding the family of Rex. Alongside psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott, Brueski delves into the controversial aftermath of a home raid conducted on Rex's family residence by law enforcement. Rex's wife, apparently distressed by the extent of the damage caused during the raid, has filed a notice of claim against the law enforcement agencies involved. The raid, which was executed under suspicions of Rex being a serial killer for 30 years, left the home in shambles. The family's valuables were shattered, beds were cut open, and even drain pipes were removed from the bathroom sink rendering it unusable. Brueski remarked, "This is interesting and I wanna look not just at the complaint of this, of, oh my gosh, my house is in shambles...but at the same point. Your husband's accused of being a serial killer for 30 years and you seem to still kind of really have the focus on you." This comment hints at Brueski's skepticism regarding the wife's focus on the destruction of her home, rather than the grave accusations against her husband. However, Scott brought in a more empathetic perspective, commenting on the extensive damage inflicted during such raids. "It is frustrating to me having seen so many of these raids over the years...do we have to really destroy the place in the process?" She emphasized the emotional turmoil the wife must be going through, adding, "I'd be devastated. I'd be crazy out of my mind. I'd be upset. I'd be grieving. My life is ruined and damnit now my home is ruined too, you know?" The discourse took another interesting turn when Brueski pointed out that the house may have been a "hoarder home" prior to the raid. He argued that the house's condition was likely already poor before the search, based on photos showing cluttered boxes and messy interiors. This raises questions about the necessity of the level of destruction during the raid, especially if the home was already in disarray. Scott, reflecting on her expertise in psychology, mentioned the importance of understanding the living conditions of the family before the raid. She mused, "It would've been really interesting...to be able to go through the home without it being torn up." A sentiment both hosts agreed upon was the challenge law enforcement must face when searching a hoarder home, given the sheer amount of items to sift through, especially when searching for vital evidence like DNA. While Brueski and Scott don't claim expertise on law enforcement protocol, they touched upon the topic of search warrants. There was speculation over whether officers could seize items not specified in the warrant if they seemed relevant to the investigation. Scott mentioned past instances where evidence seized outside the scope of a warrant was deemed inadmissible in court. The podcast episode not only sheds light on the controversies surrounding law enforcement practices but also emphasizes the emotional and psychological turmoil families undergo in such circumstances. As Brueski aptly puts it, the question remains whether the wife's claim against the police is a legitimate grievance or if she's, unfortunately, a victim of the circumstances she found herself in. In a world where the line between justice and intrusion blurs, episodes like these compel listeners to reflect on the broader implications of law enforcement actions on individuals and their families. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
21 Elo 20235min
51: WEEK IN REVIEW-That Pesky DNA - The Downfall of Rex Heuermann
Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news. This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events. Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Chad & Lori Daybell, The Long Island Serial Killer, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
21 Elo 20235min
51: WEEK IN REVIEW-Is Heuermann Going Away For Life No Matter What?
Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news. This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events. Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Chad & Lori Daybell, The Long Island Serial Killer, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
20 Elo 20235min
51: WEEK IN REVIEW-Coffindaffer On The Challenges Of Multiple Investigations Into Rex Heuermann
Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news. This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events. Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Chad & Lori Daybell, The Long Island Serial Killer, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
20 Elo 20235min
51: WEEK IN REVIEW-Will NEW DNA From Heuerman Lead To More Murders?
Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news. This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events. Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Chad & Lori Daybell, The Long Island Serial Killer, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
20 Elo 20235min
50: WEEK IN REVIEW-Will Heuermann's Latest DNA Test Reveal More Murders?
Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news. This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events. Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Chad & Lori Daybell, The Long Island Serial Killer, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
20 Elo 20236min
49: Did Rex Heuermann Torment Victim's Families By Calling Them From Victim's Phones?
In a chilling episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski delved into the mind and motives of the alleged Long Island serial killer, Rex Heuermann, accused of the 2010 murders at Gilgo Beach. Joined by renowned psychotherapist and author, Shavaun Scott, the episode peeled back the layers of deception, sadism, and apparent normality that often cloak such predators. Scott, who penned the book "The Minds of Mass Killers: Understanding and Interrupting The Pathway to Violence," painted a disturbing portrait of Heuermann. Beyond the brutal act of killing, Heuermann, according to Brueski, took perverse pleasure in tormenting the families of his victims. "Why on earth are you calling the family? Why are you messing with the people that are just trying to grieve?" Brueski mused. Shedding light on this morbid curiosity, Scott explained, “Serial killers aren't killing for personal gain. They're killing for pleasure, typically sexual pleasure.” Such individuals find the suffering of others arousing, and some, like Heuermann, even derive pleasure from the emotional turmoil of grieving relatives. Heuermann's audacity was evident when he telephoned the sister of one of his victim’s multiple times to revel in her distress. The duality in Heuermann's personality was another aspect dissected during the discussion. While some acquaintances found him likable, neighbors described him as "grumpy and menacing." This juxtaposition, Scott pointed out, is a hallmark of many serial killers, “They hide this split-off, separate personal quality very, very well.” The narcissism accompanying this is evident in the cat-and-mouse games they play, either with law enforcement, the press, or in Heuermann's case, the victim's family. His attention to detail, Scott hypothesized, was probably a significant factor in evading capture for so long. "He was very detail-oriented when it came to what he was doing," Brueski noted, highlighting Heuermann's reported obsessive nature. This obsession, according to Scott, would have made him more meticulous about leaving no evidence behind. The arrest finally came about when a strand of his hair, along with some from his wife, was discovered on the burlap sacks containing the bodies. Such seemingly minor mistakes eventually become instrumental in solving cases that have stymied investigators for years. One of the most unsettling aspects of such killers is their sexual gratification from their heinous deeds. While some might jump to the conclusion that a history of sexual abuse might be behind such urges, Scott clarified that this isn't always the case. “Sometimes it's exposure to violent pornography at a young age, or even sadistic kinds of horror movies,” she added, suggesting that repeated exposure at a young age can rewire the brain. But what of the killer's family? Heuermann had a wife and children. Was there any inkling of his double life? Drawing parallels to the infamous BTK killer, Scott postulated that such killers are experts at compartmentalization, meticulously hiding evidence and possibly leading seemingly normal domestic lives. As Brueski aptly put it, it's a case of finding "breadcrumbs" in retrospect. The "Hidden Killers" episode underscored the complex and often baffling psyche of serial killers. As investigations unfold and more information emerges, society grapples with the uncomfortable reality that monsters can sometimes hide in plain sight, masked by a veneer of normality. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
18 Elo 20239min
