38: What Kinds Of Forensic Evidence Will Be Key In Gilgo Beach Murders Case?

38: What Kinds Of Forensic Evidence Will Be Key In Gilgo Beach Murders Case?

In a recent episode of the podcast Hidden Killers, Tony Brueski was joined by Joseph Scott Morgan, a Forensic Scientist and Distinguished Scholar of Applied Forensics at Jacksonville State University. The discussion delved into the intricate facets of forensic evidence related to an ongoing case involving a suspected serial killer.

At the onset, Morgan detailed the challenges of investigating cases where the bodies have been in a state of decomposition for several years. "We don't have a lot of solid data relative... about causes of death," he shared, linking the gaps in information to the advanced decomposition of the remains. The forensic scientist also touched upon patterns typically exhibited by serial killers in their modus operandi, indicating that most do not deviate from their preferred methods of execution.

He highlighted the case of one killer from New Orleans who derived perverse pleasure from using a garrot. Such killers revel in the physical pain they inflict, with the act of murdering becoming an intimate and personalized endeavor. This gruesome insight shed light on the psychology of serial killers and their attachment to certain methods of killing.

One of the more perplexing aspects of the case at hand is the varying states of the bodies found - some intact and others dismembered. Morgan stated, "What's fascinating about her [Fire Island Jane Doe] case is that her... legs were found that fateful day out on Fire Island back in 96... there's still no torso with her." This begs the question: why would a killer leave some bodies intact and yet take the time to dismember others?

Discussing this dichotomy further, Morgan posited a theory that the dismemberment could be a sign that the killer had more time with certain victims. "Is the dismemberment an indication that a subject may have had more time with someone they had targeted to kill?" Morgan mused. "It takes time to take a body apart... They would have done this, wrapped it and deposited it out there." On the contrary, other bodies might have been disposed of in haste, possibly wrapped in materials like burlap.

Contrasting these behaviors, Morgan underlined the difference between treating a dead body with a semblance of respect versus mutilating it. These variations can be significant when trying to understand the psyche of a serial killer and can give insights into their evolving patterns.

Yet, this very evolution is what baffles investigators. "To change how you're disposing of bodies is certainly an outlier in my experience," Morgan expressed. Brueski echoed the sentiment, pointing out that it's bizarre for one's methods to alter so drastically unless it's a sign of evolving behavior.

Adding a layer of complexity, the location of these bodies was discussed. The secluded nature of Long Island was emphasized, with its isolation being a potential factor in why it was chosen for body deposition.

A more unsettling aspect was the return of the suspected killer's family to their home, presumably a site of significant forensic evidence. The speed with which the house was released back to the family after investigations left both Brueski and Morgan shocked.

The podcast episode served as a sobering reminder of the complexities of forensic investigations, especially with serial killers. Morgan's insights provided a deep dive into the often unfathomable minds of those who commit such heinous acts, leaving listeners with more questions than answers about the ongoing case. As the investigation unfolds, both the public and experts alike await to see how forensic science will unveil the truths hidden within the evidence.
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Wife of Alleged Gilgo Beach Serial Killer Asserts Husband's Innocence, Attorney Says

Wife of Alleged Gilgo Beach Serial Killer Asserts Husband's Innocence, Attorney Says

Asa Ellerup, the estranged wife of alleged Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann, has reaffirmed her belief in her husband's innocence, according to a statement released by her attorney on Wednesday. Heuermann, a former New York architect, faces charges in connection with the murders of four women whose remains were discovered near Gilgo Beach in December 2010. Despite the severity of the accusations, Ellerup maintains her husband's innocence, regularly visiting him in custody. "I will listen to all of the evidence and withhold judgment until the end of trial," Ellerup stated through her attorney, Bob Macedonio. "I have given him the benefit of the doubt, as we all deserve." Expressing sympathy for the victims and their families, Ellerup emphasized her belief in Heuermann's innocence, stating, "Nobody deserves to die in that manner." Heuermann, aged 60, has been charged with the murders of Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Megan Waterman, Amber Costello, and Melissa Barthelemy, all of whom were escorts on Long Island. He pleaded not guilty to these charges. Macedonio explained Ellerup's decision to release a statement, stating that she visited Heuermann several times since the last indictment and wished to reiterate her belief in his innocence. Prosecutors allege that Heuermann's wife and children were out of town when Brainard-Barnes disappeared and was killed, fitting a pattern where Heuermann was allegedly alone when the other three victims were killed. Substantial DNA evidence has been collected in the case since Heuermann's arraignment, including hair found on the belt buckle securing Brainard-Barnes' body, which matched Ellerup's genetic profile. Similar DNA links were found at other crime scenes, involving Heuermann's wife and daughter, who are not considered suspects. Despite these developments, a trial date has not been scheduled for Heuermann, who continues to maintain his innocence. The case has garnered significant attention due to the gruesome nature of the crimes and the subsequent legal proceedings against Heuermann, a father of two who has denied all charges against him. As the investigation continues and legal proceedings unfold, the community awaits further updates on the case, hoping for justice for the victims and closure for their families. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

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Is Rex Heuermann A Covert Narcissist?  -WEEK IN REVIEW

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Will Asa Ellerup Eventually Be Charged In Connection To Her Husband Rex Heuermann's Crimes?  -WEEK IN REVIEW

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How Was Rex Heuerman Allegedly Able To Abuse And Murder So Many For So Long?  -WEEK IN REVIEW

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Is Asa Ellerup Staying With Rex Heuermann To Avoid Testifying Against Him?

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In a world where legal intricacies intertwine with chilling criminal allegations, how does the concept of spousal privilege play into the investigation of heinous crimes? This question forms the core of a recent episode of "Hidden Killers," where host Tony Brueski discusses the complex case surrounding alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann with former felony prosecutor and attorney Eric Faddis. The conversation delves into the intriguing situation of Asa Ellerup, Heuermann's wife, who has yet to divorce him. Brueski probes whether Ellerup's reluctance to end her marriage could be a strategic move to maintain spousal privilege, potentially shielding her from testifying against Heuermann. Faddis explains, "Typically, in many states, if the couple is married, the wife wouldn't have to testify under oath against her husband." However, Faddis also highlights exceptions to this rule, such as the 'forfeiture by wrongdoing' clause, which could apply if Ellerup had any nefarious involvement in Heuermann's alleged crimes. The discussion also explores the differences between involvement and knowledge in the context of legal responsibility. Faddis points out, "Usually just having knowledge of some wrongdoing doesn't necessarily expose someone to criminal liability," but he also mentions scenarios where knowledge could implicate someone, such as obstruction or involuntary homicide theories. Brueski raises the possibility of Ellerup having knowledge of Heuermann's alleged actions, whether it be his infidelities or more sinister activities. Faddis agrees this is a complex legal area, adding, "If you know that your husband is likely to kill other sex workers because he's done it in the past and you say nothing, does that begin to look like obstruction?" The discussion concludes with speculation about ongoing investigations. Faddis believes prosecutors are likely exploring all avenues covertly, keeping a close eye on Ellerup and her connections. He asserts, "Prosecutors aren't just sitting on their hands; they're probably covertly exploring any investigative avenues they can." As the case against Rex Heuermann unfolds, the role of Asa Ellerup and the application of spousal privilege remain critical areas of interest. With new developments possibly on the horizon, one must ask: What secrets lie behind the veil of a marriage entangled in a web of alleged crimes?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

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How Was Rex Heuerman Allegedly Able To Abuse And Murder So Many For So Long?

How Was Rex Heuerman Allegedly Able To Abuse And Murder So Many For So Long?

Is it possible for a predator to hide in plain sight within a community, evading law enforcement for years? This is the central question in the case against Rex Heuermann, the man accused of being the Long Island serial killer, as discussed on the "Hidden Killers" podcast with host Tony Brueski and former felony prosecutor and attorney Eric Faddis. The case has garnered significant attention due to the harrowing testimonies of alleged survivors. In a recent development, two women, Taylor and Mary Poe, have come forward with chilling accounts of their encounters with Heuermann. Taylor, a bottle girl in 2010, claimed she had to use a taser to escape from Heuermann, while Poe alleged she was shot in the neck by him and miraculously survived. Brueski humorously dismisses any notion of mistaken identity, stating, "Rex Heuermann is not a guy that you really would confuse with many other people." Faddis, lending his legal perspective, emphasizes the importance of these testimonies for the prosecution. "They're going to draw parallels, they're going to show overlap, and they're going to tie all of this together in a pattern of behavior for Rex Heuermann over the course of years," he explains. The discussion also delves into the societal factors that may have allowed Heuermann to operate undetected. Faddis points out that predators like Heuermann target vulnerable communities who are averse to law enforcement, making them easy targets. He also notes Heuermann's use of resources, such as burner phones, to cover his tracks. As Brueski and Faddis unravel the complexities of the case, the question of how many other victims might be out there lingers. The podcast sheds light on the grim reality of predators exploiting societal stigmas and legal loopholes. As the case against Heuermann continues to build, one can't help but wonder: How many more stories are yet to be told, and what will it take to bring such predators to justice?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

21 Helmi 20244min

How Many Women Did Rex Heuermann Kill?

How Many Women Did Rex Heuermann Kill?

Can a series of accounts and testimonies truly capture the essence of a criminal's character? This intriguing question forms the core of a recent "Hidden Killers" podcast episode, where hosts Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke, a retired FBI Special Agent, delve into the chilling accounts surrounding Rex Heuermann. Known for his involvement in the Gilgo Beach murders, Heuermann's character is further scrutinized through new testimonies, shedding light on his alleged depravities and the system's response to such individuals. Brueski introduces two new accounts, one from a woman named Taylor, a nightclub bottle girl who narrowly escaped an assault from Heuermann in 2010. Dreeke, with his expertise in behavioral analysis, is unsurprised by these revelations, describing Heuermann's actions as "pure depravity." He notes that Heuermann's distinctive appearance made him memorable, worsening his situation as more victims come forward. The conversation then shifts to the systemic response to such criminals. Brueski highlights the efforts of Attorney Ray, who is bringing new information to light, often more than the official investigation. They discuss the importance of addressing the victims' families' needs and the challenges in the justice system in dealing with such complex cases. Another account mentioned by Brueski involves Mary Poe, a sex worker who alleged an encounter with Heuermann in 1994, resulting in her being shot. This account, backed by medical records, adds to the growing list of allegations against Heuermann. Dreeke emphasizes the need for thorough investigation, questioning why Heuermann's estranged wife, who is now making a documentary, has not been more scrutinized. The episode takes an interesting turn when discussing Heuermann's mental state in jail. Despite the heinous nature of his crimes, he receives counseling for depression, prompting a debate on the ethics and necessity of providing mental health support to accused criminals. Dreeke sees this as a testament to the quality of the American jail system, while Brueski expresses frustration that such resources are allocated to someone accused of such grave crimes. In conclusion, the episode of "Hidden Killers" brings to light the complex dynamics of criminal behavior, victim impact, and the justice system's role in addressing these issues. It paints a picture of a system striving to balance justice and humanity, even in the face of profound depravity. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

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