38: What Kinds Of Forensic Evidence Will Be Key In Gilgo Beach Murders Case?

38: What Kinds Of Forensic Evidence Will Be Key In Gilgo Beach Murders Case?

In a recent episode of the podcast Hidden Killers, Tony Brueski was joined by Joseph Scott Morgan, a Forensic Scientist and Distinguished Scholar of Applied Forensics at Jacksonville State University. The discussion delved into the intricate facets of forensic evidence related to an ongoing case involving a suspected serial killer.

At the onset, Morgan detailed the challenges of investigating cases where the bodies have been in a state of decomposition for several years. "We don't have a lot of solid data relative... about causes of death," he shared, linking the gaps in information to the advanced decomposition of the remains. The forensic scientist also touched upon patterns typically exhibited by serial killers in their modus operandi, indicating that most do not deviate from their preferred methods of execution.

He highlighted the case of one killer from New Orleans who derived perverse pleasure from using a garrot. Such killers revel in the physical pain they inflict, with the act of murdering becoming an intimate and personalized endeavor. This gruesome insight shed light on the psychology of serial killers and their attachment to certain methods of killing.

One of the more perplexing aspects of the case at hand is the varying states of the bodies found - some intact and others dismembered. Morgan stated, "What's fascinating about her [Fire Island Jane Doe] case is that her... legs were found that fateful day out on Fire Island back in 96... there's still no torso with her." This begs the question: why would a killer leave some bodies intact and yet take the time to dismember others?

Discussing this dichotomy further, Morgan posited a theory that the dismemberment could be a sign that the killer had more time with certain victims. "Is the dismemberment an indication that a subject may have had more time with someone they had targeted to kill?" Morgan mused. "It takes time to take a body apart... They would have done this, wrapped it and deposited it out there." On the contrary, other bodies might have been disposed of in haste, possibly wrapped in materials like burlap.

Contrasting these behaviors, Morgan underlined the difference between treating a dead body with a semblance of respect versus mutilating it. These variations can be significant when trying to understand the psyche of a serial killer and can give insights into their evolving patterns.

Yet, this very evolution is what baffles investigators. "To change how you're disposing of bodies is certainly an outlier in my experience," Morgan expressed. Brueski echoed the sentiment, pointing out that it's bizarre for one's methods to alter so drastically unless it's a sign of evolving behavior.

Adding a layer of complexity, the location of these bodies was discussed. The secluded nature of Long Island was emphasized, with its isolation being a potential factor in why it was chosen for body deposition.

A more unsettling aspect was the return of the suspected killer's family to their home, presumably a site of significant forensic evidence. The speed with which the house was released back to the family after investigations left both Brueski and Morgan shocked.

The podcast episode served as a sobering reminder of the complexities of forensic investigations, especially with serial killers. Morgan's insights provided a deep dive into the often unfathomable minds of those who commit such heinous acts, leaving listeners with more questions than answers about the ongoing case. As the investigation unfolds, both the public and experts alike await to see how forensic science will unveil the truths hidden within the evidence.
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Sociopath ME Thompson On How Sociopath Rex Heuermann Functioned

Sociopath ME Thompson On How Sociopath Rex Heuermann Functioned

In a riveting conversation, Tony Brueski of the "Hidden Killers" podcast sat down with diagnosed psychopath and author, M.E. Thomas, for a discussion on the dark intricacies of a sociopathic mind.    M.E. Thomas, author of the compelling read "Confessions of a Sociopath, A Life Spent Hiding in Plain Sight," offers an unparalleled perspective on the mind of someone who can live without the typical boundaries of morality and empathy. In their discussion, Brueski sought to understand the perplexing case of Rex Heuermann, a seemingly average family man and architect, who stands accused of heinous nighttime crimes.    Discussing the mindset of someone like Heuermann, M.E. Thomas observed, "He probably has a very high ability to compartmentalize... He doesn't have maybe good integration of self." This ability to see life as 'two separate things' suggests a strong divide between public and private personas, allowing an individual to commit grave acts without internal conflict.    As the discussion continued, she provided deeper insights into the disorder. Unlike killers who might be haunted by their actions, Thomas believes Heuermann doesn't experience any conflict between his dual lives. His potential lack of emotional turmoil makes him distinct from other criminals. This distinction led Thomas to suspect a personality disorder, possibly Narcissistic or Antisocial.    According to Thomas, Heuermann's behavior displays a high level of compartmentalization that is typically beyond the reach of those without a personality disorder. For example, some individuals might grapple with the dichotomy of their actions, feeling a sense of guilt or remorse. But Heuermann, based on the allegations against him, doesn't appear to internally conflict with his crimes.    Delving into the nuances of personality disorders, Thomas explained how different disorders could influence an individual's perception of potential consequences. For instance, someone with an Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder might feel anxious about being caught. In contrast, a person with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder might feel invincible, believing they're smarter than law enforcement. For Heuermann, his alleged indifference to getting caught hints at a potential blend of narcissism and a Machiavellian attitude.    Reflecting on her own experience as a psychopath, Thomas detailed the advantages and challenges of compartmentalization. Such individuals, she explained, can easily adapt and mold themselves to situations due to the lack of a firmly anchored self-identity. While this malleability can be an advantage, it also presents challenges. Sharing personal information, even trivial facts, becomes a burden. Keeping up with the lies and maintaining consistency in one's narrative is a complex balancing act.    This revealing discussion provided a deep dive into the mind of someone who, by all external appearances, seems normal but might harbor dark secrets within. M.E. Thomas's insights are a valuable contribution to understanding the complicated world of sociopathy, shedding light on the often-hidden undercurrents of human psychology. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

29 Elo 202313min

Did Former Police Chief Enable Gilgo Beach Killer?

Did Former Police Chief Enable Gilgo Beach Killer?

In a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, a shocking revelation has come to light concerning the investigation into suspected serial killer, Rex Heman. The discourse took a twist when the discussion pivoted to the arrest of former Chief of Police in Suffolk County, James Burke, apprehended for soliciting a sex worker in a park.    Burke's arrest raises serious questions given his tenure at the helm of the Suffolk County Police during the years Heman is believed to have been most active. Host Tony Brueski, who interviewed retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke, raised concerns about the potential influence or involvement of Burke and possibly other high-ranking officials in the very community being scrutinized. Brueski commented, "Nobody's looking at these things because maybe the police chief doesn't want any microscopes looking at him as well."   Dreeke shared his astonishment at the news, remarking, "Shocking and sad. Isn't it? When I read this, I was shocked and appalled like everyone else was."    A significant portion of the discussion centered around the puzzling fact that Burke actively blocked external agencies, including the FBI, from being involved in the case. Addressing the general misconception that the FBI usually overrides local authorities, Dreeke clarified that this rarely happens. He explained, "It depends on the statute, depends on whether it's a federal statute you're prosecuting or local. And this is a local case."    The crux of the matter lies in the relationship between the local police chiefs and the head of the FBI office. In ideal circumstances, both parties collaborate and pool their resources to further an investigation. Dreeke outlined this, stating, "Both parties go to each other and say, 'Hey, what can I do to assist you?'"    The Suffolk case, however, deviated from this norm. When the FBI offered its extensive resources to aid the investigation, including profilers, interviewers, and forensics, they were denied involvement. "Is that a red flag when the FBI is turned away from a local jurisdiction?" asked Brueski.    Dreeke then shed light on the underlying factors often influencing such decisions. The root of these obstructions often boils down to ego clashes, personality conflicts, and sometimes, unfortunately, individuals prioritizing their careers over the mission. "If you have a case agent or an investigator that is 100% about the mission and willing to sacrifice their career, maybe their reputation to battle their executive management to get things moving because they think something's wrong...you might be able to make a difference," Dreeke shared.    However, the contrary also holds. When individuals are career-oriented, often reluctant to ruffle feathers, investigations like that of Rex Heman suffer. For Dreeke, cases are as much about managing relationships and navigating egos as they are about pursuing the truth. He lamented, "Egos and vanity get involved in these things, unfortunately, and this is one of those cases where it totally undermined the investigation."    In light of these revelations, the case of Rex Heman and the involvement (or lack thereof) of multiple agencies will likely remain under public and media scrutiny. The arrest of James Burke further adds layers of complexity, demanding a comprehensive re-evaluation of the events and decisions that have shaped the investigation thus far. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

29 Elo 20236min

WEEK IN REVIEW-Did Police Over-Damage Heuermann's House During Raid?

WEEK IN REVIEW-Did Police Over-Damage Heuermann's House During Raid?

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Chad & Lori Daybell, The Long Island Serial Killer, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

28 Elo 20235min

WEEK IN REVIEW-Is Heuermann Going Away For Life No Matter What?

WEEK IN REVIEW-Is Heuermann Going Away For Life No Matter What?

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Chad & Lori Daybell, The Long Island Serial Killer, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

27 Elo 20235min

WEEK IN REVIEW-Identifying 'Red Flags' In Heuermann's Family Behavior

WEEK IN REVIEW-Identifying 'Red Flags' In Heuermann's Family Behavior

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Chad & Lori Daybell, The Long Island Serial Killer, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

27 Elo 20235min

WEEK IN REVIEW-Did Heuermann Torment Victims Families By Calling Them From Victims Phones?

WEEK IN REVIEW-Did Heuermann Torment Victims Families By Calling Them From Victims Phones?

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Chad & Lori Daybell, The Long Island Serial Killer, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

26 Elo 20239min

Does Gilgo Beach Killer's Murder Spree Span Multiple States?

Does Gilgo Beach Killer's Murder Spree Span Multiple States?

In the latest episode of "Hidden Killers" podcast, Tony Brueski sat down with former Felony Prosecutor and attorney Eric Faddis to discuss the unfolding saga of Rex Heuermann. The high-profile case has turned heads once again as the Las Vegas police department makes strides in DNA testing related to a New Jersey murder case from years ago.    As per the conversation, Heuermann's DNA is undergoing a direct comparison with the evidence recovered from the crime scene. The results, expected within six to eight weeks, could have significant implications for the case. "Forensics have really advanced within the past 20 to 30 years or so," Faddis notes, pointing out that preserved DNA samples are now coming back into the spotlight as technology allows for more precise matches.    Brueski raises an intriguing point, “Does this put any more weight on it in terms of that they got this far to make the comparison?” suggesting the gravity of having such direct comparisons. Faddis responds by saying, "And so unfortunately for him, Las Vegas is doing that DNA testing." The attorney also posits that other jurisdictions with cold cases might begin to compare preserved DNA samples to Heuermann's DNA, potentially leading to more criminal cases in the future.    If further DNA matches are found, the discussion touches upon potential legal ramifications, including where the trials might take place. While cross-state crimes often raise the question of whether the federal court should handle the matter, Faddis suspects that individual states might choose to prosecute Heuermann separately.    On the topic of Heuermann’s family, Brueski delves into the controversial GoFundMe campaign in light of the family's reported financial situation. The family's apparent wealth, juxtaposed with an $80,000 tax levy and the GoFundMe campaign, raises eyebrows. Faddis ponders on the family’s motivation, suggesting that “they're kind of preparing for what they could see as the inevitable.” It's noted that the family has sought legal counsel, leading to more speculation about their involvement or knowledge.    In situations where financial assets are jointly held, the courts often face dilemmas on how to proceed, especially when other family members, potentially victims themselves, rely on those funds. Faddis explains, "With almost every legal matter, there's what the law says, right? And then there's the human component." While the courts might initially be sympathetic, civil suits brought forward by victims' families could change this perspective.    The Rex Heuermann case continues to draw national attention, shedding light on the advancements in forensics, the complexities of the legal system, and the profound impact such high-profile cases can have on the accused's family. As investigations proceed and legal battles ramp up, all eyes will be on Las Vegas as the DNA results are awaited. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

25 Elo 20237min

Defense Attorney Bob Motta Speculates Why Heuermann's Wife Has Not Been Questioned

Defense Attorney Bob Motta Speculates Why Heuermann's Wife Has Not Been Questioned

The chilling case of Rex Heuermann took center stage in the recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers", as Tony Brueski sat down with Defense Attorney and podcast host of "Defense Diaries", Bob Motta. The discussion revolved around startling DNA revelations found on burlap sacks associated with the case and drew comparisons with other notorious serial killer cases.    "Interestingly enough, there was more DNA of his wife than him that was actually on the sacks themselves," Brueski revealed at the outset, setting the stage for a gripping discussion.    For the uninitiated, the fact that Heuermann's wife's DNA was more prevalent on the sacks, yet she was quickly cleared by the authorities, raises questions. What Brueski found most perplexing, and what became a central point of discussion, was that "the police investigators, detectives have not sat down and talked with her yet."    Motta, who possesses an intimate knowledge of notorious killers, given his father served as John Wayne Gacy's attorney, shared his astonishment at the lack of conversation with Heuermann's wife. Using the Gacy case as an illustrative point, he drew similarities between the two cases. "Gacy was married... for the first, you know, four years of his killing period," Motta began. He highlighted how Gacy's wife, Carol, had unknowingly lived in a house where the body of Tim McCoy was buried. With Carol often questioning the foul smell coming from the crawlspace below their home, Gacy would dismiss her concerns, attributing it to "a dead raccoon or something."    Motta's telling account painted a chilling picture of life with a serial killer, highlighting moments where Carol heard screams emanating from their garage and Gacy's frequent late-night disappearances. "It's hard. Like, and I'm certainly not gonna cast any shade on his wife. 'Cause I don't know," Motta pondered. He further delved into the psyche of those close to the perpetrators, musing over the possibility of willful blindness or a lack of awareness of their partner's crimes.    Drawing parallels with the Heuermann case, the duo questioned the reasons behind the law enforcement's apparent inertia in interviewing Heuermann's wife. "It certainly warrants a conversation with her," Motta asserted. Brueski weighed in with his thoughts, hypothesizing that law enforcement might be monitoring her actions in her natural environment before proceeding.    The discussion then turned to another baffling case of Jared GaN. Brueski pointed out how GaN's wife, who had been under scrutiny for a considerable amount of time, was eventually arrested and charged with first-degree murder. While not insinuating a direct connection with the Heuermann case, Brueski found it "extremely odd that there's been no conversations there with law enforcement."    Both Brueski and Motta stressed the importance of the presumption of innocence. However, the conversation underscored the need for thorough investigations, especially when critical evidence like DNA is present at crime scenes.    The Rex Heuermann case, as discussed in this episode, offers a haunting insight into the enigmatic world of criminal investigations, leaving listeners with more questions than answers. As investigations proceed, the "Hidden Killers" podcast promises to keep its audience at the edge of their seats, unraveling mysteries, one episode at a time. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

25 Elo 20234min

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