The Family That Kills Together: India’s Baby Killers Day 9: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

On day 5, we are headed to Lewistown, Idaho. It is also home to Lewis and Clark State College, where 21-year-old Kristina Nelson was a student in 1982. Kristy, as her friends and family call her, was a bright, articulate student studying business. While not attending classes, she enjoyed her passion for painting. She started a job as a custodian at the Lewiston Civic theatre to get to know more community members. Kristy’s step-sister, 19-year-old Brandy Miller, also worked at the theater with Kristy. Just like Kristy, Brandy was artistically inclined. On September 12, 1982, Kristina left a note for her boyfriend, who would be coming over later to hang out with them, and she didn’t want him to be confused when Kristy and Brandy were not home. The two needed to go to the store to pick up a few snacks for the night. The note assured him they would be home soon. Plans changed as Kristy’s boyfriend got home from work and fell asleep instead of going to hang out with Kristy. The following morning, he headed to Kristy’s apartment and found no one home. He did see the note from the night before on the table. Not thinking much of it, he went on his way. However, when the day came and went, the following day, having still not heard from her, he went to the Lewiston theatre and learned that she had failed to show up for work. In fact, none of Kristy’s friends had seen her at all. Kristy was very responsible, and her friends knew something was wrong. The boyfriend went to the police to file a missing person report for Kristy and Brandy.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas -Day 5:Valley of Death: The Lewis Clark Valley MurdersListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:https://vimeo.com/51442715:Confluencehttps://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-keeps-file-open-on-kristin-david-case/article_ec559279-df44-5002-a29f-4d2c18bb978c.htmlhttps://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-keeps-file-open-on-kristin-david-case/article_ec559279-df44-5002-a29f-4d2c18bb978c.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Missing_and_Exploited_Childrenhttps://klewtv.com/news/local/a-look-into-the-suspect-in-christina-white-disappearance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 Joulu 202224min

Cody Legebokoff was born on January 21, 1990. He was raised in Fort St. James, a districtmunicipality characterized by severe, snowy winters and short summers on the southeastern shore of Stuart Lake in British Columbia. Cody grew up hunting for grouse and fishing for trout with his family, with whom he had a close relationship. Cody was into country music and dirt biking. He played minor hockey and soccer and competed on school downhill skiing and snowboarding teams. When he graduated from Fort St. James Secondary School in 2008, Cody spent a brief time living in Lethbridge, Alberta, before moving back to British Columbia and settling in Prince George, about 100 miles southeast of Fort St. James, working as a mechanic for a Ford dealership. Cody is presented as a “perfectly normal” young man, described by family and friends as popular, friendly, sociable, and kind-hearted, showing no propensity for violence. For these reasons, the residents of Fort St. James were left shocked and in disbelief when, after a routine traffic stop in November 2010, Cody was found to have committed a brutal murder. The discovery of this murder was just the start and would eventually lead to Cody Legebokoff being named one of Canada’s youngest serial killers.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 4 Canada's Youngest Serial Killer: Cody LegebokoffListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Written and researched by Kira Ackling Sources:“Fort St. James” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_St._James“Cody Legebokoff” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_Legebokoff“Cody Legebokoff: Canada’s Youngest Serial Killer” - Crime Travellerhttps://www.crimetraveller.org/2016/08/cody-legebokoff-canadas-youngest-serial-killer/“Who is Cody Alan Legebokoff?” - Global News https://globalnews.ca/news/167103/who-is-cody-alan-legebokoff/“Loren Leslie Murder: Where is Cody Legebokoff Now?” - The Cinemaholichttps://thecinemaholic.com/loren-leslie-murder-where-is-cody-legebokoff-now/“Cody Alan Legebokoff” - Murderpedia https://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/legebokoff-cody.htm“Cody Legebokoff had blood on face, legs when arrested, Crown says” - CBC Newshttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cody-legebokoff-had-blood-on-face-legs-when-arrested-crown-says-1.2663413“Autopsy reveals extensive injuries, Legebokoff trial hears” - Prince George Citizenhttps://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/legebokoff-trial-archive/autopsy-reveals-extensive-injuries-legebokoff-trial-hears-3712443“Legebokoff admits to playing a role in Stuchenko murder” - Prince George Free Presshttp://www.pgfreepress.com/legebokoff-admits-to-playing-a-role-in-stuchenko-murder/“Body found in gravel pit is missing mother of six” - CTV News https://bc.ctvnews.ca/body-found-in-gravel-pit-is-missing-mother-of-six-1.449385“For family of missing and murdered woman, violence has historical roots” - Alaska HighwayNews https://www.alaskahighwaynews.ca/bc-news/for-family-of-missing-and-murdered-woman-violence-has-historical-roots-3494237“Natasha Montgomery, Missing from British Columbia since 2010” - Justice for Native Womenhttp://www.justicefornativewomen.com/2016/04/natasha-montgomery-missing-from-british.html“The victims of alleged BC serial killer” - The Globe and Mailhttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/the-victims-of-alleged-bc-serial-killer/article557840/“‘A slap in the face’: serial killer moved to medium security” - National Newshttps://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/a-slap-in-the-face-serial-killer-moved-to-medium-security/“Woman tells murder trial of relationship with Legebokoff” - Times Colonist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

16 Joulu 202226min

It is day 3, and we are headed to Longview, Washington. It is a quiet, safe town located about 50 miles outside Portland, Oregon. It is May 15, 1985, when Danelle Traxler is waiting for her young daughter, 8-year-old Rima, to arrive home from school after her walk home. Her mother had a strange feeling knowing that Rima was never one to be late. Danelle went outside and traveled the same path Rima would have, hoping to run into her, but she did not see her. Danelle went home and called the police to report her 8-year-old missing. Danelle informs officers what Rima was wearing that day and emphasizes that Rima would never talk to strangers, much less get into a car with one. In fact, Rima had a password that her family would use in an emergency. Anyone asking Rima to get in the car with them-family or even friends-- would have to have the family password. No matter who it was, they had to have the password to let Rima know it was ok. It was as if Rima had simply disappeared. Sadly, this was not the first time a young girl disappeared from the area; even worse, it would not be the last. Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas-Day 3: Killer Uncle Joe: Rima Traxler, Kara Rudd & Chila SilvernailsListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:Douglas, John; Olshaker, Mark (2019). The Killer Across the Table: Unlocking the Secrets of Serial Killers and Predators with the FBI's Original Mindhunterhttps://tdn.com/news/local/child-killer-joseph-kondro-dies-at-state-prison/article_23c1a25c-964d-11e1-94e7-001a4bcf887a.htmlhttps://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Sociopath-amazed-he-s-not-on-death-row-1061735.phphttps://tdn.com/news/local/california-author-examines-life-of-joseph-kondro/article_6ff0bc74-8aaa-11e2-9106-0019bb2963f4.htmlhttps://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Part-6-In-their-own-words-The-twisted-art-of-1107772.phphttps://www.chronline.com/stories/cowlitz-county-detectives-say-40-year-old-cold-case-of-murdered-girl-still-open,289791 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

15 Joulu 202226min

On the 9th of October 1986, Karen Hadaway and Nicola Fellows returned home from school, running through the front doors of their respective homes, eager to get changed and play outside. Around 5 pm, the girls played with friends outside a neighbor's house. Shortly after this, the girls headed to Wild Park; despite knowing they were not allowed there, Nicola was told by her parents that the “boogeyman” lived there, hoping to scare her away from ever entering. Sadly, for unknown reasons, the girls entered the park that afternoon. The girls were spotted around 5:15 pm by a park policeman, playing on some trees, who warned them that they would hurt themselves. As the afternoon turned into evening, both families began to worry. 8 pm was their bedtime, and they both knew to be home by then, but there was no sign of either of them. Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 2: Babe in the WoodsListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Written and researched by Kira AcklingSources:SOURCES - “Russell Bishop (murderer)” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Bishop_(murderer) “Babes in the Woods murders (Wild Park) - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babes_in_the_Wood_murders_(Wild_Park) “'I didn't top the girls': How brazen Russell Bishop greeted victim's father after police bailed him over Babes in the Wood murders... 32 years before he was eventually convicted” - Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6859693/Father-tells-32-years-scapegoat-Babes-Wood-murders.html#v-4228966068257666593“FACE OF A MONSTER Chilling pics shows Babes in the Wood killer Russell Bishop joining search for schoolgirls he brutally murdered” - The Sun https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7946214/cctv-footage-babes-wood-killer-joined-search-murdered-girls/“'HE'S A MONSTER' Babes in the Wood murder victims’ mums blast ‘coward’ killer as he’s FINALLY convicted 32 years on” - The Sun https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7942926/wicked-paedo-russell-bishop-finally-found-guilty-of-babes-in-the-woods-murders-32-years-on/“The Babes in the Wood murders and the killer who searched for his own victims” - Sussex Live https://www.sussexlive.co.uk/news/sussex-news/babes-wood-murders-killer-who-4511903“Russell Bishop jailed for 1986 Babes in the Wood murders” - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46528206“Babes in the Wood murders: How killer paedophile Russell Bishop was caught by DNA, and tried to accuse victim's father” - Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/babes-wood-murders-russell-bishop-guilty-dna-father-barrie-karen-hadaway-nicola-fellows-cruel-defence-a8630076.html“Paedophile denies murdering nine-year-olds - but admits sexually assaulting seven-year-old then lying about it” -... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

14 Joulu 202232min

Our first nightmare before Christmas takes up back in time to 1961. It is March in Odessa, Texas, and while the state is known for being warm, the spring air is still crisp in the mornings. The William’s household is getting ready for the day. Mrs. Williams had made breakfast for her 17-year-old daughter Betty who is currently a senior at Odessa High School. Screaming her name from the small kitchen, Betty did not answer. Like most moms of teenagers, we are all too familiar with the oversleeping kid, so Mrs. Williams makes the walk down the hall to Betty’s room and knocks on the door, telling Betty her breakfast is getting cold and she is going to be late for school. When Betty doesn’t answer, she jiggles the door knob and realizes the door is locked. Mrs. Williams, perhaps out of fear or, more likely, anger, leaves the house through the front door to go around to the back of the house. Betty had an outside door in her bedroom, and well, Betty had been known to not always follow her parent's rules. As she opened the door, anger was now gone as she gazed upon a bed that had not yet been slept in during the night. Betty was missing.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas -Day 1: Kiss and Kill Murder: Betty Williams.Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:https://www.nydailynews.com/true-crime-justice-story/ny-kiss-and-kill-murder-ghost-of-odessa-high-school-20221029-gnokrx6tozfchdkvuxgejbqdpm-story.htmlhttps://www.cbs7.com/content/news/FIRST-ON-CBS7-Kiss-and-Kill-killer-has-died-504111961.htmlhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt5156498/https://medium.com/of-misdeeds-and-mysteries/killer-claims-girl-begged-him-to-shoot-her-6824335131bhttps://showbizcorner.com/betty-williams-murder-update-john-mack-herringhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RCRRBO7JMNKF7?ASIN=097775586X Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

13 Joulu 202228min

It is October 17, 1941, and 73-year-old Phillip failed to answer his front door. Since his wife was in the hospital, the neighbors took turns having him over for dinner so he would not be all alone. This evening Phillip was excepted to come to the neighbor's house for food, and he didn’t show up. Not sure why the neighbor went to Philip’s house and knocked on the door, but no one answered. Worried something was wrong, she gathered a few more neighbors and went back to the house. After checking all the doors and windows, they located a window that was unlocked and a neighbor crawled into the window. The worst fears became a reality when the young woman started screaming about what she had discovered inside. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘Spiderman of Denver: Theodore Coneys’Listener discretion is by our buddy @octoberpodVHS All music is by our EP @wetalkofdreams Promo is by our friend @santamaybeCheck out his fabulous and clever podcast ‘Santa Maybe A Criminal’Sources: https://history.denverlibrary.org/news/tale-denver-spider-manhttps://www.outtherecolorado.com/features/the-dark-creepy-tale-of-denvers-spider-man-reader-discretion-advised/article_926dccd6-7b94-11eb-b5f1-53f4e77bca3e.htmlhttps://murderpedia.org/male.C/c/coneys-theodore.htmhttps://www.ranker.com/list/theodore-coneys-facts/jacob-sheltonhttps://web.archive.org/web/20040213070643/http://www.prisonmuseum.org/spider.htmhttps://www.audible.com/pd/15-Theodore-Edward-Coneys-The-Denver-Spider-Man-Podcast/B08ZSZRYWPhttps://www.reddit.com/r/CreepyWikipedia/comments/qgu95z/theodore_edward_coneys_a_murderer_who_squatted_in/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

7 Joulu 202240min

****This is a brutal episode. Listener discretion is advised ****In April of 1973, on Friday the 13th, Elsie Ralph was at work, bartending at the Punch Bowl Tavern in the Rainbow Hill district of Worcester, England. At closing time, her husband came to pick her up and left their three young children at home with their lodger, David McGreavy.An hour later, as the couple approached their home, they were met by police, informing them that they could not enter their home. Elsie panicked and begged to know why. The police officer gravely told them, “There’s been a murder.” The police would not immediately share with the couple precisely who had been murdered or the details of the crime. Elsie became hysterical, and an ambulance medic gave her a sedative. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss 'The Monster of Worcester: David McGreavy'A big thank you to:Listener Discretion by Edward @OctoberpodVHS. You can find him on all your podcast apps or at https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoProducer and theme music by Nico Vettese at wetalkofdreams.comResearched and written by Lauretta AllenSources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_McGreavyhttps://uk.news.yahoo.com/david-mcgreavy-parole-babysitter-killed-three-children-impaled-bodies-railings-cleared-release-101026018.htmlhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-22623176https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/david-mcgreavy-the-monster-of-worcesterhttps://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-story-about-the-monster-of-worcester-david-mcgreavy-who-killed-3-children-d1eaea1bfc7chttps://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/mcgreavy-david.htmhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-48593232http://www.murderuk.com/david-mcgreavy.htmlhttps://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/killer-babysitters-chilling-answer-asked-16418799https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS9F4xfVtlU&t=6shttps://www.newspapers.com/image/829639153/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/290961364/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/785070134/?terms=%22David%20McGreavy%22%20murder&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

30 Marras 202239min

We are headed to Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, a resort town in the Midwest. The summer tourist season is about to kick off. The popular destination is located on Geneva Lake and has been popular for years, with everyone from the elite to kids hitting up the water parks. On June 5, 2014, a call came into the Walworth County Sheriff's Department at about 3:20 pm. The dispatch informed them that laying on the side of Como Road, were two suitcases discovered by a local farmer. The farmer attempted to move them, but as he approached, the smell let him know that he needed to call the police. As police arrived on the scene, they located two suitcases, a black one with plenty of insect activity on it and a purple one. Police unzipped the black one and discovered the body of a female inside. Even though the body was badly decomposed, it was a female, and her body was intact. There was a ball gag in her mouth attached to her head by a strap. Around her neck, there was a rope with both of her hands behind her body. It would take a while to find out who was responsible but they would find him.Join Jen and Cam on this episode of ‘Our True Crime Podcast’ as we discuss ‘The Suitcase Killer: Steven Zelich.’As always, our listener discretion is by Edward October @octoberpodVHS Check him out, you will love him. PromiseAll music is original by our executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams He makes us sound good…and that is a chore.Sources:https://www.wisn.com/article/court-ex-cop-can-try-to-rescind-guilty-plea-in-suitcase-death/34797666https://nypost.com/tag/steven-zelich/https://fox6now.com/2014/06/30/no-doubt-it-was-her-friends-family-of-jenny-gamez-were-just-waiting-on-dental-records-to-prove-it/https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/southwest/news/west-allis/2020/12/01/ex-west-allis-cop-convicted-murder-can-try-rescind-guilty-plea/6469784002/https://kcby.com/news/local/missing-oregon-womans-body-found-in-suitcase-in-wisconsin-11-13-2015-234817734https://web.archive.org/web/20140627062913/http://abc7chicago.com/news/man-arrested-in-connection-with-wi-suitcase-bodies-case/140271/https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-wisconsin-cop-charged-in-suitcase-murders/https://fox6now.com/2017/10/13/steven-zelich-sentenced-to-10-years-for-hiding-bodies-of-women-in-suitcases/https://thecinemaholic.com/laura-simonson-and-jenny-gamez-murders-where-is-steven-zelich-now/https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/30/how-mrhandcuffs-ended-up-with-two-corpses-in-suitcases Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

23 Marras 202243min