The Sunday Read: ‘Podcasters Took Up Her Sister’s Murder Investigation. Then They Turned on Her’
The Daily21 Tammi 2024

The Sunday Read: ‘Podcasters Took Up Her Sister’s Murder Investigation. Then They Turned on Her’

Liz Flatt drove to Austin, Texas, mostly out of desperation. She had tried talking with the police. She had tried working with a former F.B.I. profiler who ran a nonprofit dedicated to solving unsolved murders. She had been interviewed by journalists and at least one podcaster. She had been featured on a Netflix documentary series about a man who falsely confessed to hundreds of killings.

Although she didn’t know it at the time, Flatt was at a crossroads in what she had taken to calling her journey, a path embarked on after a prayer-born decision five years earlier to try to find who killed her sister, Deborah Sue Williamson, or Debbie, in 1975. It was now 2021.

She had come to Austin for a conference, CrimeCon, which formed around the same time that Flatt began her quest, at a moment now seen as an inflection point in the long history of true crime, a genre as old as storytelling but one that adapts quickly to new technologies, from the printing press to social media. Flatt met a woman who would later put her in touch with two investigators who presented at the conference that year: George Jared and Jennifer Bucholtz. They were podcasters, but Jared was also a journalist and Bucholtz an adjunct professor of forensics and criminal justice at the for-profit American Military University. Their presentation was on another cold case, the murder of Rebekah Gould in 2004, whose killer they claimed to have helped find using a technique that has quickly become a signature of the changing landscape of true crime: crowdsourcing.

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Thursday, April 20, 2017

Thursday, April 20, 2017

Fox News’s biggest star is out of a job two and a half weeks after a Times investigation into sexual harassment allegations. We talk to one of the two reporters who are most responsible — perhaps responsible — for Bill O’Reilly’s ouster. Guests: Emily Steel, who spent months investigating allegations against Mr. O’Reilly; and Jim Rutenberg, the media columnist for The Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

20 Huhti 201721min

Wednesday, April 19, 2017

Wednesday, April 19, 2017

Why so many of President Trump’s advisers are urging him to break a major promise on climate change. And the view from inside Scott Pruitt’s Environmental Protection Agency, where staff members are rebelling against their new boss. Guests: Coral Davenport, who writes about energy and the environment for The New York Times; Mike Cox, a former E.P.A. official. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

19 Huhti 201720min

Tuesday, April 18, 2017

Tuesday, April 18, 2017

What did we learn about the newest member of the Supreme Court, Justice Neil Gorsuch, from his first day on the job? And why would a democratic country voluntarily make itself more authoritarian? Guests: Adam Liptak, our Supreme Court reporter; and Patrick Kingsley, a foreign correspondent based in Turkey. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2oryRGw. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

18 Huhti 201716min

Monday, April 17, 2017

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Friday, April 14, 2017

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14 Huhti 201726min

Thursday, April 13, 2017

Thursday, April 13, 2017

A week ago, President Trump was accused of being a tool of President Vladimir V. Putin. Now, he says ties with Moscow are at an all-time low. What is going on between the United States and Russia? Guest: David E. Sanger, who is currently in Moscow. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2pp7bqn. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

13 Huhti 201716min

Wednesday, April 12, 2017

Wednesday, April 12, 2017

The relationship between two key figures in the White House, Stephen K. Bannon and Jared Kushner, has deteriorated to the point of breakdown. Is Mr. Bannon in trouble? Guest: Jeremy W. Peters, who has been covering the story from Washington. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2osfGj3. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

12 Huhti 201717min

Tuesday, April 11, 2017

Tuesday, April 11, 2017

How did Bashar al-Assad, a mild-mannered ophthalmologist, become a ruler who uses chemical weapons against his own people? And why is President Trump rejecting Mr. Assad, even as he is embracing another Middle Eastern leader with a reputation for brutality. Guests: Ben Hubbard, who covers the Middle East for The Times; Rukmini Callimachi, who writes about the Islamic State. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2p79Cur. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

11 Huhti 201720min

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