028 JSJ Greenfield vs Brownfield Projects
JavaScript Jabber21 Syys 2012

028 JSJ Greenfield vs Brownfield Projects

PanelJoe Eames (twitter github blog) AJ O'Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Summer Camp)
DiscussionGreenfield - Brand New Project Brownfield - Older Applications, Legacy Code Poopfield - PHP Development Dealing With Legacy Code Use Tests Working Effectively with Legacy Code - Michael Feathers Risk When is the big rewrite the correct answer?
PicksJoseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling (AJ) Roll Up Crepes (AJ) Calepin (AJ) Bernie (Jamison) Dota 2 (Jamison) Derrick Storm Novels - A Brewing Storm, A Bloody Storm, A Raging Storm (Joe) Castle (Joe) X-Wing Mineatures (Joe) PEX For Fun (Joe) MLG Championship - Starcraft Duel (Joe) VESA 75 to 100 Adapter (Chuck) LG Tone Bluetooth Headphones (Chuck)
Transcript
JOE: Listen baby, it won’t get weird.JAMISON: [Chuckles]AJ: That sounds... weird.JAMISON: [Chuckles] Too Late.[Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net.][This episode is sponsored by Harvest. I use Harvest to track time, track subcontractor’s time and invoice clients. Their time tracking is really simple and easy to use. Invoicing includes a ‘pay now’ function by credit card and PayPal. And you can sign up at getharvest.com. Use the code RF to get 50% off your first month.]CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 28 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neil.AJ: Yo, yo, yo comin’ at you live from the second story of an office base in Orem, Utah.CHUCK: We also have Jamison Dance.JAMISON: Hi, I’m Jamison Dance and I am super excited, because today iTV just announced that we are doing the Nintendo TV thing; and I haven’t been able to talk about it for, like, six months, so it’s a good day.CHUCK: Cool. We also have Joe Eames.JOE: Comin at you semi live from American Fork, Utah.CHUCK: And I am Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv. Tim is not with us this week because he is in China. I thought I’d point that out, because I think it’s cool. Anyway, this week we are going to be talking about Greenfield versus Brownfield projects. It was kind of funny when we were getting ready to do this, some of the panels were like, Green/Brown?JAMISON: Yeah, I have to pull Josh Susser and ask for a definition.CHUCK: So, as far as I understand it, there are some new --- to this, depending to who you talk to, but mostly, Greenfield is a brand new project with few or no decisions made and no code written for it yet. And Brownfield projects are effectively older applications usually associated with legacy code. You know, so it’s an application that already has code written toward it. Typically, it is out there in the world doing whatever it is supposed to do.JAMISON: Now, I want to put this question delicately. Are there any fecal connotations to the color ‘brown’ in Brownfield?CHUCK: Only if it’s PHP.JOE: [Chuckles]. Then it’s Poopfield Development?CHUCK: [Chuckles]. Okay, we are not gonna go down that tangent.[Laughter]AJ: Because, I mean honestly, when Mormons make jokes about crap, it never sounds good anyway.CHUCK: Yeah. So anyway, how many of you guys have actually worked on a real Greenfield project? Like been there from day one, that you have it just built yourself.JAMISON: I guess it depends on your definition. Maybe. So we have lots of services at ITV, so I've been part of spinning up completely new services that didn’t exist. We had other sort of similar things already, so some of the decisions were already made for, so we kind of had a style established. But it was still like a separate project.AJ: Do you forget us so soon, Jamison?JAMISON: [Chuckles].AJ: You don’t remember ever working here or getting started…JAMISON: I do. I don’t remember Greenfield stuff; I remember new features, I mean,

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JSJ 439: More Jabber About Less JavaScript with Alex Russell

JSJ 439: More Jabber About Less JavaScript with Alex Russell

Join the 30-DAY CHALLENGE: "You Don't Know JS Yet"Alex Russell works for Google on the Chrome team and is the lead of Project Fugu which focuses on Web Capabilities and Progressive Web Apps. Alex leads the JavaScript Jabber panel in a discussion of writing less JavaScript and focusing on performance and functionality on low bandwidth connections and low performance phones. Because accessibility is downstream, now, of performance, he argues that we need to focus on performance to make applications that give a good experience on lower end phones and connections.PanelAJ O’NealAimee KnightCharles Max WoodDan ShappirGuestAlex Russell React Native Remote Conf 2020 Links1 Million Teachers And Staff Lost Their Job In AprilJSJ 428: The Alphabet Soup of Performance Measurements - Devchat.tvPicksAlex Russell:Follow Alex on Twitter > @slightlylate, Websiteweb.devWebPageTest - Website Performance and Optimization TestAJ O’Neal:Flint 4KP HDMI CaptureBureau of Justice StatisticsBlack Voices MatterLyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero. But also a racist. | MSNBCAimee Knight:Package PhobiaUnsplashCharles Max Wood:PodWrenchHome | Brandon SandersonDan Shappir:Package PhobiaEpisode 253 – Take Responsibility for Your Career and Work on Things You Enjoy with Dan Shappir – IT Career Energizer Follow JavaScript Jabber on Twitter > @JSJabber Special Guest: Alex Russell. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

7 Heinä 202013min

JSJ 438: You Don't Know JS Yet with Kyle Simpson (SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT at the End)

JSJ 438: You Don't Know JS Yet with Kyle Simpson (SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT at the End)

Join the “You Don’t Know JS Yet” 30-day CHALLENGE SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT at the end of this episode. Don't miss it. Kyle Simpson, author of the You Don't Know JS Yet series joins the JavaScript Jabber panel to discuss the origins and approach to his book series. The discussion varies to the basic parts of JavaScript, the parts you should know, and how to learn them.PanelAJ O’NealAimee KnightCharles Max WoodSteve EdwardsDan ShappirGuestKyle SimpsonSponsorsG2i | Enjoy the luxuries of freelancing "The MaxCoders Guide to Finding Your Dream Developer Job" by Charles Max Wood is now available on Amazon. Get Your Copy Today! Linksgetify/TypL: The JavaScript Type LinterPicksKyle Simpson:Follow Kyle Thompson on Twitter > @getifygithub/super-linter: Combination of multiple linters to install as a GitHub ActionCharles Max Wood:WordPressVlog - Video Blog & Podcast WordPress Theme by meks | ThemeForestDevchat.tv Book Camp - Use Promo code "JSJABBER"Dan Shappir:Wix in the '90sBreaking Chains with Pipelines in Modern JavaScriptA Promise of a Bright Future With Async Iterators, Generators, and Pipes, Part 1Join the “You Don’t Know JS Yet” 30-day CHALLENGEFollow JavaScript Jabber on Twitter > @JSJabber Special Guest: Kyle Simpson. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

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JSJ 437: Inside the Brave Browser with Jonathan Sampson

JSJ 437: Inside the Brave Browser with Jonathan Sampson

React Native Remote ConfJuly 28th to 31thJonathan Sampson hops into the Jabber session to talk about the Brave Browser. He and the panel wander through the topics of privacy, browser design, and features.PanelAJ O’NealAimee KnightCharles Max WoodSteve EdwardsDan ShappirGuestJonathan Sampson  "The MaxCoders Guide to Finding Your Dream Developer Job" by Charles Max Wood is now available on Amazon. Get Your Copy Today! PicksJonathan Sampson:Follow Jonathan Sampson on Twitter > @BraveSampson, @jonathansampsonOffice LadiesJavaScript: The First 20 YearsThe Office: The Untold Story of the Greatest Sitcom of the 2000sAJ O’Neal:Predictably IrrationalDragon Ball ZAimee Knight:What Is BGP?8GreensCharles Max Wood:Traffic SecretsDotCom SecretsExpert SecretsSteve Edwards:Home TownDan Shappir:Web VitalsJSJ 428: The Alphabet Soup of Performance MeasurementsWhat's New in Lighthouse 6.0Follow JavaScript Jabber on Twitter > @JSJabber Special Guest: Jonathan Sampson. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

23 Kesä 20201h 25min

JSJ 436: MongoDB Basics with Joe Karlsson

JSJ 436: MongoDB Basics with Joe Karlsson

React Native Remote ConfJuly 28th to 31thWhat is MongoDB? How does it work? How is it different than a standard relational database? How does it fit into a modern web app? This week, the panel gets the answers to these questions and more when they talk to Joe Karlsson, Software Engineer and Developer Advocate at MongoDB.PanelAJ O’NealAimee KnightSteve EdwardsGuestJoe KarlssonSponsorsG2i | Enjoy the luxuries of freelancingRemote Work: Get a Job or Make a Career Working From Home "The MaxCoders Guide to Finding Your Dream Developer Job" by Charles Max Wood is now available on Amazon. Get Your Copy Today! LinksFree MongoDB Official Courses | MongoDB UniversityCourse to start withMongoDB Developer HubPicksJoe Karlsson:Follow Joe on Twitter > @JoeKarlsson1MongoDB TwitchAnimal Crossing: New HorizonsMongoDB.liveAJ O’Neal:The guys who invented the term "sharding"?Supporting Pick: WikiPedia confirms that Ultima Online popularized the term "sharding"Your Coffee Shop Doesn't Use Two-Phase CommitAimee Knight:What happens when I type kubectl run?The Cereal SchoolSteve Edwards:Pink Floyd: A Momentary Lapse of ReasonFollow JavaScript Jabber on Twitter > @JSJabber Special Guest: Joe Karlsson. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

16 Kesä 202059min

JSJ 435: Form.io with Travis Tidwell

JSJ 435: Form.io with Travis Tidwell

The panel is joined by Travis Tidwell, co-founder and CTO of Form.io, a ME*N stack platform that incorprates a form builder with automatically generated REST API endpoints. Travis discusses the history of Form.io, how it’s built and works, and lays the smackdown on panelist and noted NoSQL database skeptic AJ O’Neal by showing how MongoDB is the appropriate DB for storing form data in JSON format.PanelSteve EdwardsAJ O’NealAimee KnightGuestTravis TidwellSponsorsG2i | Enjoy the luxuries of freelancingRemote Work: Get a Job or Make a Career Working From Home "The MaxCoders Guide to Finding Your Dream Developer Job" by Charles Max Wood is now available on Amazon. Get Your Copy Today! LinksForm.ioPicksAJ O’Neal:Follow AJ on Twitter > @coolaj86File System | Node.js v14.3.0 DocumentationJDDwebinstall.devSteve Edwards:Follow Steve on Twitter > @wonder95, WebsiteNeedtobreathe - Rivers In The WastelandTravis Tidwell:Follow Travis on Twitter @softwaregnome, GithubVEX IQ - VEX RoboticsFollow JavaScript Jabber on Twitter > @JSJabber Special Guest: Travis Tidwell. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

2 Kesä 20201h 7min

JSJ 434: Understanding and Using ES Modules in Node with Gil Tayar

JSJ 434: Understanding and Using ES Modules in Node with Gil Tayar

Gil Tayar gave a presentation recently on ES modules in Node. He joins the panel to discuss how to use and think about ES modules. With considerable pushback from AJ, Gil explains how to start using modules and what the tradeoffs are between modules, script tags, and build tools.PanelAJ O’NealAimee KnightCharles Max WoodSteve EdwardsDan ShappirGuestGil TayarSponsorsG2i | Enjoy the luxuries of freelancingRemote Work: Get a Job or Make a Career Working From Home "The MaxCoders Guide to Finding Your Dream Developer Job" by Charles Max Wood is now available on Amazon. Get Your Copy Today! LinksJSJ 341: Testing in JavaScript with Gil TayarPicksAJ O’Neal:USB 4Heavy Duty Suction CupsMiracle BerryAimee Knight:AJ ONeal - YouTubeCharles Max Wood:Dr. Erickson COVID videoZelda: Breath of the Wild75HARDSteve Edwards:Don’t Let the Pigeon Drive the BusThe Pigeon Finds a Hot DogDan Shappir:webinstall.devVisit IsraelGil Tayar:Follow Gil on Twitter > @giltayarSunset BlvdNode v14.0.0Follow JavaScript Jabber on Twitter > @JSJabber   Special Guest: Gil Tayar. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

19 Touko 202043min

JSJ 433: Understanding the Browser Layer with Noam Rosenthal

JSJ 433: Understanding the Browser Layer with Noam Rosenthal

JavaScript Remote Conf 2020May 13th to 15th - register now!Noam Rosenthal has worked in both web and native technologies. He leads off with a discussion of the history of the web, browsers, and specifically webkit. The panel then goes into how browsers and built and discuss the differences between the different browsers.PanelAJ O’NealAimee KnightSteve EdwardsDan ShappirGuestNoam Rosenthal "The MaxCoders Guide to Finding Your Dream Developer Job" by Charles Max Wood is now available on Amazon. Get Your Copy Today! LinksJSJ 428: The Alphabet Soup of Performance MeasurementsTest suites for Web platform specs — including WHATWG, W3C, and othersJSJ 421: Semantic HTML with Bruce LawsonPicksAJ O’Neal:vim 8 pluginsNikelodeon Gak / Super CleanProjector Screen SteamerAimee Knight:BlinkOnSteve Edwards:Steve's email: steve@smgaweb.comInstagram - dad jokeshttps://www.instagram.com/epicdadjokes/https://www.instagram.com/dadsaysjokeshttps://www.instagram.com/pun_bible/https://www.instagram.com/dad_joking/Dan Shappir:EggsNoam Rosenthal:Follow Noam on Twitter > @realnoamHyperisolationThe Art of StorytellingFollow JavaScript Jabber on Twitter > @JSJabber Special Guest: Noam Rosenthal. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

12 Touko 202052min

JSJ 432: Internet of Things (IoT) with Joe Karlsson

JSJ 432: Internet of Things (IoT) with Joe Karlsson

JavaScript Remote Conf 2020May 13th to 15th - register now!Joe Karlsson is a developer advocate at MongoDB. He and the panel walk through the different approaches, uses, and libraries for building IoT with JavaScriptPanelAimee KnightCharles Max WoodAJ O’NealDan ShappirSteve EdwardsGuestJoe KarlssonSponsorsG2i | Enjoy the luxuries of freelancing  "The MaxCoders Guide to Finding Your Dream Developer Job" by Charles Max Wood is now available on Amazon. Get Your Copy Today!  LinksCylon.js - JavaScript framework for robotics, physical computing, and the Internet of Things using Node.jsJohnny-Five: The JavaScript Robotics & IoT PlatformArduino - HomeTessel 2Tessel Kit for Johnny-FiveThe Programming Language LuaLuvit.ioGumstix, Inc.PicksAJ O’Neal:MicroPython - Python for microcontrollersRaspberry Pi Reverse Emulator (Part 1)Raspberry Pi Reverse Emulator (Part 2)Arduino With Python: How to Get Started – Real PythonDuktapeHow to Diagnose and Fix Everything ElectronicGetting Started in ElectronicsMake: Electronics (Book)Make: Electronics (Component Pack)Aimee Knight:Cutting Your own HairJoe's AppartmentCharles Max Wood:The Iron Druid Chronicles Series by Kevin HearneJavaScript Jabber MeetupSteve Edwards:Pearls Before SwineDan Shappir:JavaScript Remote Conf 2020JS VidConFuture Sync ConferenceJoe Karlsson:Follow Joe on Twitter > @JoeKarlsson1MongoDB.liveFollow JavaScript Jabber on Twitter > @JSJabber Special Guest: Joe Karlsson. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

5 Touko 202057min

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