Tara Mohr

Austin Channing Brown is a writer, speaker, and practitioner who helps schools, nonprofits, and religious organizations practice genuine inclusion. She is passionate about the advancement of racial justice and reconciliation and her words will most certainly move you to action. In her work, she shares her experiences as a black woman who “navigates whiteness on a regular basis”. After listening to this interview and reading her book, your mind and heart will be broadened towards understanding and inclusion – regardless of where you are on that spectrum today.  We’re re-releasing this episode because as we’re in the midst of a crisis point of racial injustice here in the United States, Austin Channing Brown is a leading voice on racial justice and her wisdom and perspective can benefit us all.  We hope you’ll take some time to pause, listen to what she has to say, and consider the ways in which you might take some action to further healing and justice at whatever scope and scale you are able.  To that end, we’ve created a small resource guide to point you in a few directions that we think might be helpful as you look to further educate yourself on what action steps to take.  Donate to or get involved with: Southern Poverty Law Center- The Southern Poverty Law Center is dedicated to fighting hate and bigotry and to seeking justice for the most vulnerable members of our society. Using litigation, education, and other forms of advocacy, the SPLC works toward the day when the ideals of equal justice and equal opportunity will be a reality. https://www.splcenter.org NAACP Legal Defense Fund- –https://www.naacpldf.org/–  The NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc. is America’s premier legal organization fighting for racial justice. Through litigation, advocacy, and public education, LDF seeks structural changes to expand democracy, eliminate disparities, and achieve racial justice in a society that fulfills the promise of equality for all Americans.  Campaign Zero- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/– Funds donated to Campaign Zero support the analysis of policing practices across the country, research to identify effective solutions to end police violence, technical assistance to organizers leading police accountability campaigns and the development of model legislation and advocacy to end police violence nationwide. Ideas of other ways to get involved: Sign the petition for George Floyd- Yes millions have signed and so can you. 75 Things White People Can Do for Racial Justice So many of the changes we need to see regarding police brutality have to happen at the local level. That is good news because it’s easier to get involved and have moe impact. This page has Campaign Zero’s list of issues by city and state: There are so many books out there but here are some books that come highly recommended: “White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk about Racism” by Robin DiAngelo “How to Be an Antiracist” by Ibram X. Kendi “Biased: Uncovering the Hidden Prejudice That Shapes What We See, Think, and Do” by Jennifer L. Eberhardt  “Raising White Kids” by Jennifer Harvey  “So You Want to Talk About Race” by Ijeoma Oluo  “The Black and the Blue: A Cop Reveals the Crimes, Racism, and Injustice in America’s Law Enforcement” by Matthew Horace and Ron Harris  “The Fire Next Time” by James Baldwin “Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race” by Reni Eddo-Lodge “They Can’t Kill Us All: Ferguson, Baltimore, And A New Era In America’s Racial Justice Movement” by Wesley Lowery “The Third Reconstruction: How a Moral Movement Is Overcoming the Politics of Division and Fear” by Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove and William Barber II “Between the World and Me” by Ta-Nehisi Coates “Stamped: Racism, Antiracism, and You” by Jason Reynolds and Ibram X. Kendi “The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness” by Michelle Alexander In This Interview, Austin Channing Brown and I Discuss Racial Justice and… Her book, I’m Still Here: Black Dignity in A World Made for Whiteness The importance and value of anger How we can fight the monsters without becoming the monsters That anger reveals something is wrong White fragility – sadness and anger Naming the things that can come in the way of a discussion, before the discussion happens Realising racial bias Transformation comes after a moment of realization The idea of “whiteness being normal” Books to read to gain an understanding of racial injustice Disunity in Christ Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?: And Other Conversations About Race How to look for opportunities to talk with others about topics of racial injustice Check out “Be the Bridge” The white confessional being a shortcut to true reconciliation Skipping the confessional story and moving straight to the action step you’ll take next What reconciliation means to her Racial justice and reconciliation Radical Reconciliation How reconciliation should revolutionize the relationships we have with each other The celebration of blackness that is throughout the book Cultural misappropriation Austin Channing Brown Links austinchanning.com Facebook Twitter Daily Harvest: Delivers absolutely delicious organic, carefully sourced, chef-created fruit and veggie smoothies, soups, overnight oats, bowls, and more. To get $25 off your first box go to www.dailyharvest.com and enter promo code FEED Talkspace: the online therapy company that lets you connect with a licensed therapist from anywhere at any time. Therapy on demand. Non-judgemental, practical help when you need it at a fraction of the cost of traditional therapy. Visit www.talkspace.com and enter Promo Code: WOLF to get $100 off your first month. But wait – there’s more! The episode is not quite over!! We continue the conversation and you can access this exclusive content right in your podcast player feed. Head over to our Patreon page and pledge to donate just $10 a month. It’s that simple and we’ll give you good stuff as a thank you! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

3 Kesä 202055min

Nir Eyal is an author whose writing on technology, psychology, and business has appeared in the Harvard Business Review, The Atlantic, Psychology Today, and many other renowned publications. Previously, he taught as a Lecturer in Marketing at the Stanford Graduate School of Business and Design School. In this episode, Nir and Eric discuss his new book, Indistractable: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life.  You can find all of the most up to date crisis help & support resources that Eric is making available through The One You Feed by going to www.oneyoufeed.net/help The wisdom and practice of self-compassion is a foundational principle that Eric teaches and helps his private clients learn to apply through the 1-on-1 Spiritual Habits Program. To learn more about this program, click here. Need help with completing your goals in 2020? The One You Feed Transformation Program can help you accomplish your goals this year. But wait – there’s more! The episode is not quite over!! We continue the conversation and you can access this exclusive content right in your podcast player feed. Head over to our Patreon page and pledge to donate just $10 a month. It’s that simple and we’ll give you good stuff as a thank you! In This Interview, Nir Eyal and I discuss Becoming Indistractable and… His book, Indistractable: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life How what we pay attention to determines our quality of life The importance of being in control of how you spend your time and attention in life When it comes to being distracted, there are the blamers, the shamers, and the claimers That the root cause of distraction is uncomfortable sensations Time management is pain management How you can’t stop emotions but you can respond to them The 4 key steps of becoming indistractable Traction and Dis-traction How anything can become a distraction That you can’t call something a distraction unless you know what you are distracted from The tyranny of the to-do list Deciding with intent when you’re going to do something Timeboxing Mastering our internal triggers: Learning to work with our uncomfortable emotions The 3 reasons we get distracted The antidote to impulsive behavior Using an identity to help us become indistractable Nir Eyal Links: nirandfar.com; FREE Schedule Maker Twitter Instagram Facebook Best Fiends: Engage your brain and play a game of puzzles with Best Fiends. Download for free on the Apple App Store or Google Play.  SimpliSafe: Get comprehensive protection for your entire home with security cameras, alarms, sensors as well as fire, water, and carbon monoxide alerts. Visit simplisafe.com/wolf for free shipping and a 60-day money-back guarantee. Seed: Scientifically validated, next-generation probiotics. Their mission: to bring much-needed precision, efficacy, and education to the global probiotics market. Go to www.seed.com/wolf or use promo code WOLF for 15% off your first month of The Daily Symbiotic. If you enjoyed this conversation with Nir Eyal on the Becoming Indistractible, you might also enjoy these other episodes: Chris Bailey James Clear Part 1 James Clear Part 2 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

26 Touko 202058min

Laura McKowen is an author, award winning blogger and host of Spiritualish, a show that provides an irreverent take on self help. She has been featured on WebMD, the New York Post, Bravo, the Today Show, and more. Laura also hosts sold out retreats and courses teaching people to say Yes to a bigger life. In this episode, she and Eric discuss her newest book, “We are the Luckiest, the Surprising Magic of a Sober Lfie” You can find all of the most up to date crisis help & support resources that Eric is making available through The One You Feed by going to www.oneyoufeed.net/help The wisdom and practice of self-compassion is a foundational principle that Eric teaches and helps his private clients learn to apply through the 1-on-1 Spiritual Habits Program. To learn more about this program, click here. Need help with completing your goals in 2020? The One You Feed Transformation Program can help you accomplish your goals this year. But wait – there’s more! The episode is not quite over!! We continue the conversation and you can access this exclusive content right in your podcast player feed. Head over to our Patreon page and pledge to donate just $10 a month. It’s that simple and we’ll give you good stuff as a thank you! In This Interview, Laura McKowen and I Discuss the Magic of Being Sober and… Her book, We Are the Luckiest: The Surprising Magic of a Sober Life Addiction isn’t about will power or being bad How we as humans are “magnificent monsters” in that we all have light and dark inside of us Being in a liminal space is where transformation takes place.   Looking at challenging times and asking “What is this trying to teach me?” Embracing the mystery of not knowing How addiction demands everything Having a “split mind” – the conflict of wanting to drink and knowing that you shouldn’t The cognitive dissonance between who we think we are and what we’re doing Being afraid of how you’ll feel when you’re not drinking Understanding that sobriety gets better, then it gets worse, then it’s different Her experience with AA and the positive and negative aspects of this recovery program The importance of dealing with the physical body in recovery The fear of “aloneness” and not having a home within ourselves  Dealing with the ongoing struggle and need to be fixed or saved by someone Learning to not being afraid of herself and starting to build self esteem and dignity Laura McKowen Links: lauramckowen.com Twitter Instagram Facebook Grammarly: The digital writing tool that you can rely on to get your message across clearly, effectively, and correctly. It works where you work: in Gmail, Google Docs, Slack and many other platforms. Get 20% off Grammarly Premium when you sign up at www.grammarly.com/feed Cryo-freeze CBD Roll-On by Omax Health: Quick, effective, and long-lasting relief from joint and muscle aches and pains. Enter promo code WOLF to get 20% off and free shipping of any Omax Health product at www.omaxhealth.com If you enjoyed this conversation with Laura McKowen on the Magic of Being Sober, you might also enjoy these other episodes: Catherine Gray Mishka Shubaly Anna David See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

19 Touko 202052min

Scott Barry Kaufman is a cognitive scientist interested in the development of intelligence, creativity, and personality. He applies a variety of perspectives to come to a richer understanding and appreciation of all kinds of minds and ways of achieving greatness. In this episode, he and Eric discuss his book, Transcend: The New Science of Self Actualization. They discuss many ways in which we can go beyond coping and, instead, set our sights a bit higher to thrive in our day to day life, regardless of the circumstances. Scott Barry Kaufman shows us how the ordinary life is always, at its heart, the extraordinary life. You can find all of the most up to date crisis help & support resources that Eric is making available through The One You Feed by going to www.oneyoufeed.net/help The wisdom and practice of self-compassion is a foundational principle that Eric teaches and helps his private clients learn to apply through the 1-on-1 Spiritual Habits Program. To learn more about this program, click here. But wait - there's more! The episode is not quite over!! We continue the conversation and you can access this exclusive content right in your podcast player feed. Head over to our Patreon page and pledge to donate just $10 a month. It's that simple and we'll give you good stuff as a thank you!  In This Interview, Scott Barry Kaufman and I discuss Living a Transcendent Life and… His book, Transcend: The New Science of Self Actualization That the way you frame a question can influence how you feel How to take the leap towards growth so that your focus is no longer on simply coping The idea of spending our days in transcendent ways  What it means to cope The detrimental path of Experiential Avoidance  The importance of integrating everything that’s happening right now within yourself How to view your personal growth opportunities while others are suffering The difference between those who are creative amidst uncertainty and those who struggle to be creative in the same conditions Being open to embracing new experiences by letting go of the need for control Going right to the heart of the fears that you have so that you can make peace with them That we don’t grow all at once and in a linear way Scott Barry Kaufman Links: scottbarrykaufman Twitter Facebook YouTube Channel “Demons on the Boat” Video Daily Harvest: Delivers absolutely delicious organic, carefully sourced, chef-created fruit and veggie smoothies, soups, overnight oats, bowls, and more. To get $25 off your first box go to www.dailyharvest.com and enter promo code FEED Skillshare is an online learning community that helps you get better on your creative journey. They have thousands of inspiring classes for creative and curious people. Get 2 FREE months of premium membership at www.skillshare.com/feed   Best Fiends: Engage your brain and play a game of puzzles with Best Fiends. Download for free on the Apple App Store or Google Play.  If you enjoyed this conversation with Scott Barry Kaufman on Living a Transcendent Life, you might also enjoy these episodes: Mark Nepo Linda Graham See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12 Touko 202050min

Sue Monk Kidd was raised in the small town of Sylvester, Georgia, a place that deeply influenced the writing of her first novel, The Secret Life of Bees. Her 1990 book, When the Heart Waits, has become a touchstone on contemplative spirituality. Sue serves on the Writers Council for Poets & Writers, Inc and is well known for her work in feminist theology. Her new book is a novel called, The Book of Longings.   You can find all of the most up to date crisis help & support resources that Eric is making available through The One You Feed by going to www.oneyoufeed.net/help For a free video in which Eric teaches you 3 perspectives you can take to help you navigate these challenging times, go to www.spiritualhabits.net Need help with completing your goals in 2020? The One You Feed Transformation Program can help you accomplish your goals this year. But wait – there’s more! The episode is not quite over!! We continue the conversation and you can access this exclusive content right in your podcast player feed. Head over to our Patreon page and pledge to donate just $10 a month. It’s that simple and we’ll give you good stuff as a thank you! In This Interview, Sue Monk Kidd and I discuss Longings of our Heart and… Her book, The Book of Longings That what you pay attention to will either devour you or save you because we become what we pay attention to The particular genius that dwells in every person How she first decided that she wanted to write fiction when she was in her 40s Asking the prayer that’s at the bottom of your heart How being visible and being audible in the world is a choice to express the largeness that’s inside each of us That we can nurture the largeness in another person, even if the largeness is inconvenient for us God as an essence that lives everywhere, the being-ness in our midst The many ways we conceptualize and thereby connect with God Why suffering results in increased kindness in some while it hardens others The role of vulnerability in our personal growth When her therapist told her that the pain won’t kill you but the running from it might. What it means to “let life be” when both beautiful and terrible things happen Radical acceptance How the path to healing is right through the wound Facing our pain so our soul can metabolize it and we can move through it and move on What it means to be a mother beyond having actual children The middle places in life where the waiting and the work happens Her writing process The silence beneath her words Her life as a prayer How letting go is not a one-time thing That life is like a spiral Sue Monk Kidd Links: SueMonkKidd.com Twitter Facebook Instagram Talkspace: the online therapy company that lets you connect with a licensed therapist from anywhere at any time. Therapy on demand. Non-judgemental, practical help when you need it at a fraction of the cost of traditional therapy. Visit www.talkspace.com and enter Promo Code: WOLF to get $100 off your first month. SimpliSafe: Get comprehensive protection for your entire home with security cameras, alarms, sensors as well as fire, water, and carbon monoxide alerts. Visit simplisafe.com/wolf for free shipping and a 60-day risk-free trial. If you enjoyed this conversation with Sue Monk Kidd on the Longings of our Heart, you might also enjoy these other episodes: Parker J. Palmer Tara Brach See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

5 Touko 202047min

Henry Shukman is a poet, writer, and Associate Zen Master who lives in New Mexico where he teaches at Mountain Cloud Zen Center. He has published eight books to date of fiction, poetry, and non-fiction. He writes regularly for Tricycle, The New York Times, and other publications. In this episode, Eric and Henry discuss his beautifully written book, One Blade of Grass: Finding the Old Road of the Heart, a Zen Memoir. You can find all of the most up to date crisis help & support resources that Eric is making available through The One You Feed by going to www.oneyoufeed.net/help The wisdom and practice of self-compassion is a foundational principle that Eric teaches and helps his private clients learn to apply through the 1-on-1 Spiritual Habits Program. To learn more about this program, click here. Need help with completing your goals in 2020? The One You Feed Transformation Program can help you accomplish your goals this year. But wait – there’s more! The episode is not quite over!! We continue the conversation and you can access this exclusive content right in your podcast player feed. Head over to our Patreon page and pledge to donate just $10 a month. It’s that simple and we’ll give you good stuff as a thank you! In This Interview, Henry Shukman and I discuss Paths of Spiritual Awakening and… His book, One Blade of Grass: Finding the Old Road of the Heart, a Zen Memoir How to work with the 3 poisons that we all have: Greed, Ill Will, Delusion Opening up to pain (rather than turning away from it) so that we can heal His experience with dysthymia  The awakening experiences he has had in his life Learning how to be with his pain and wounds in order to heal A major myth of meditation How he knew he was ready to work with a spiritual teacher His realization that awakening experiences are doorways and we must then step onto the paths they open up to in order to continue our spiritual growth The value of community in spiritual growth The trouble with thinking you have to do things alone Discovering for ourselves the deep experience of the ordinary moments of our lives The wisdom of cherishing the normal and finding beauty in ordinary things Poetry as the practice of paying very close attention to things The different levels of love Henry Shukman Links: Mountaincloudzencenter.com Facebook Seed: Scientifically validated, next-generation probiotics. Their mission: to bring much-needed precision, efficacy, and education to the global probiotics market. Go to www.seed.com/wolf or use promo code WOLF for 15% off your first month of The Daily Symbiotic. Clean Cult: Makes effective cleaners with non-toxic ingredients you recognize and packaging that’s landfill-free. To get 25% off your first customized starter kit go to www.cleancult.com/wolf (this offer is good through May 30th, 2020) Best Fiends: Engage your brain and play a game of puzzles with Best Fiends. Download for free on the Apple App Store or Google Play.  If you enjoyed this conversation with Henry Shukman on Paths to Spiritual Awakening you might also enjoy these other episodes: Loch Kelly Ryan Oelke Norman Fischer See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

28 Huhti 202050min

Many of us are staying at home right now because of the COVID-19 pandemic and if you live with people, chances are you have had moments of feeling irritated, frustrated, or annoyed as a result of being cooped up in close quarters together. This special episode has all-new interviews with 5 previous guests of the show, each offering you tips to help you navigate the difficult feelings and situations that come with spending so much time at home with loved ones. The guests of this special episode are Susan Piver, Lodro Rinzler, Rosalind Wiseman, Ralph De La Rosa, Rick Hanson You can find all of the most up to date crisis help & support resources that Eric is making available through The One You Feed by going to www.oneyoufeed.net/help You can also access a free video in which Eric teaches you 3 perspectives you can take to help you navigate these challenging times by going to www.spiritualhabits.net In This Episode, We discuss Tips for Living in Close Quarters and… That we are all subject to unbidden moods in these circumstances How to grow closer through experiencing the ups and downs together Resisting the urge to solve the “problem” of difficult feelings To be with each other we need to be comfortable being with ourselves Strategies to help you avoid snapping at your loved ones  Turning towards your feelings rather than your thoughts  How we’re face to face with our own minds right now Feeling what we feel without judgment and without a storyline What to do when you feel highly triggered  The simple question we can ask ourselves before acting on a feeling What to do to prepare before having a difficult conversation with someone you live with How humor can help Ways to cultivate a warmer heart That listening is being prepared to be changed by what you hear A helpful structure for family or household meetings How we can prepare for difficult emotional experiences Taking ownership of our own emotions How to relate to our irritation Remembering the people you live with are suffering, too The phrase, “Like me, you, too, ____” How to reduce the way we take things personally The neuroscience of why tuning into internal bodily sensations works Beachbody On Demand: Workout at home with this easy to use streaming service with over 1300 super effective workouts suited for anybody at any time. Listeners of the show can get a free trial membership when you text WOLF to the number 303030.  Clean Cult: Makes effective cleaners with non-toxic ingredients you recognize and packaging that’s landfill-free. To get 25% off your first customized starter kit go to www.cleancult.com/wolf (this offer is good through May 30th, 2020) Laurel Springs: An accredited online private school for students K-12. Personalize the learning program and learning schedule for your unique child with Laurel Springs’ diverse and enriched curriculum. Register your child at www.laurelsprings.com/wolf and receive a waived registration fee. Links to Other Episodes: Susan Piver Lodro Rinzler Rosalind Wiseman; ‘Rosalind’s “Tiny Habits: Ralph De La Rosa Rick Hanson See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

21 Huhti 202050min

Dr. Christian Conte is one of the country’s most accomplished mental health specialists in the field of anger and emotional management. He specializes in working in the prison system with people convicted of violent crimes. In this episode, he and Eric discuss his book, Walking Through Anger: A New Design for Confronting Conflict in an Emotionally Charged World. If this conversation about radical anger management rubs you the wrong way in the beginning, we invite you to get curious about your reaction and stay with the conversation – you may feel and think differently by the end of the episode. You can find all of the most up to date crisis help & support resources that Eric is making available through The One You Feed by going to www.oneyoufeed.net/help The wisdom and practice of self-compassion is a foundational principle that Eric teaches and helps his private clients learn to apply through the 1-on-1 Spiritual Habits Program. To learn more about this program, click here. Need help with completing your goals in 2020? The One You Feed Transformation Program can help you accomplish your goals this year. But wait – there’s more! The episode is not quite over!! We continue the conversation and you can access this exclusive content right in your podcast player feed. Head over to our Patreon page and pledge to donate just $10 a month. It’s that simple and we’ll give you good stuff as a thank you! In This Interview, Christian Conte and I discuss Radical Anger Management and… His book, Walking Through Anger: A New Design for Confronting Conflict in an Emotionally Charged World Working with our own anger  The relationship between our ego and our anger Anger management That our expectations influence our experience of the world Hindsight bias How anger is a wonderful motivator That if we loosen our grip on being right, we can humble ourselves to receive other perspectives The metaphor of only being able to see one side of the box Switching to a position of curiosity  That certainty is an emotion, not a cognition Leading humility and curiosity lessens the intensity of a situation By saying, “here’s what I’m seeing, please teach me about what you’re seeing”, you can change the energy of the conversation How we can drain our own limbic system in the midst of feeling angry What it means that our mind wants to match our body Why he recommends that we go to bed angry (instead of following the old adage that says otherwise) That when we understand something intellectually, we think we’ve mastered putting it into practice in our lives That extreme language produces extreme emotions How we’re not disturbed by things – we’re disturbed by our view of things That certainty is at the heart of a lot of anger Dr. Christian Conte Links: drchristianconte.com Facebook Twitter YouTube Grammarly: The digital writing tool that you can rely on to get your message across clearly, effectively, and correctly. It works where you work: in Gmail, Google Docs, Slack and many other platforms. Get 20% off Grammarly Premium when you sign up at www.grammarly.com/feed Clean Cult: Makes effective cleaners with non-toxic ingredients you recognize and packaging that’s landfill-free. To get 25% off your first customized starter kit go to www.cleancult.com/wolf (this offer is good through May 30th, 2020) Cryo-freeze CBD Roll-On by Omax Health: Quick, effective, and long-lasting relief from joint and muscle aches and pains. Enter promo code WOLF to get 20% off and free shipping of any Omax Health product at www.omaxhealth.com If you enjoyed this conversation with Dr. Christian Conte on Radical Anger Management, you might also enjoy these other episodes: Special Episode: How to Work with Anger Liz Fosslien Hilary Jacobs Hendel See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

14 Huhti 202054min