133. AI, Datacenters and Energy - May24
Redefining Energy20 Touko 2024

133. AI, Datacenters and Energy - May24

"McKinsey, BCG and S&P Global Commodity Insights project electricity demand tied to data centers to increase at a CAGR of 15% through 2030." “Booming AI demand threatens global electricity supply (FT)”. Media and consultants have recently raised the alarm about the unquenchable energy thirst of AI and datacentres. Can we believe those predictions or is it another scaremongering wave like we saw 15 years ago, when prophets predicted that the internet would soon consume 50% of the world power?

Laurent and Gerard prefer to go directly to the source. So, we have invited Michael Terrell, Senior Director Energy and Climate at Google. Google is one of the Top 5 purchasers of Green Electricity in the world, and Michael is one of the key architects for providing 24/7 green power to their 28 datacenters around the world.

With Michael, we analyse why datacenters consume so much energy. We also discuss why the overall grid has not melted down despite ominous predictions a decade ago, as energy efficiency improvements have been spectacular. We talk about fostering the purchase of green energy and especially 24/7. We discuss new tech, whether software (Tapestry) or hardtech (geothermal, nuclear, LDES) and why Google and others BigTech are fostering them. Finally, we discuss the development of AI and its impact on the future demand.

All in all, a great discussion but more importantly a very optimistic dialogue, where we see that we – the Energy Transition Brotherhood – are a force for good and we will defeat – easily – the old guard of fossil fuel lobbyists and scaremongers.

We thank Amundi for supporting our show

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150. The new Valuation of Wind Assets

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149. Hydropower in a 24/7 Clean Energy System - Sep24

149. Hydropower in a 24/7 Clean Energy System - Sep24

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148. Batteries: the Great Consolidation

148. Batteries: the Great Consolidation

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147. Decarbonising buildings - Aug24

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146. NREL: “Our Renewable Energy Future” - Aug24

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19 Elo 202431min

145. Clash of Titans (Barnard vs Martin) – Industrial Heat Redefined

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144. Bill Gates and Energy (2/2) – the Investments / Breakthrough Energy Ventures

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