Episode #152 - 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' - 2x13, 2x14 - Whedon Sex Sounds

Join us as we discuss Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 2, episode 13, “Surprise,” and episode 14, “Innocence.”

Superfans: Selina and Natalie
Newbies: Ariana and Brittany

Fun Facts: Ariana kicks off the episode with some Dawson's Creek controversy and falls on team Pacey, while Natalie folds into team Dawson. Brittany has never seen Dawson's Creek. Selina has some fun facts about some of your favorite shows' writing staffs-- hint: they all started on Buffy!

Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 2, episode 13, “Surprise”:
-The giant purple people eater did not make it to Denmark
-We've all had those dreams that make us need to check in with people immediately
-Is this the episode where everything changes?
-Brittany gets to just say "no" to whether she likes Angel or not
-Let's talk about the Angel/Buffy theme
-Jenny Calendar is not the woman we thought she was-- she's Janna of Kalderash
-She was sent to guard Angel, but with very little information
-We pick up little pieces of information about Angel's penance
-Etymology of the word Gypsy
-Yeah, we can't get through this episode without talking about Katara
-We can all agree that Oz is the best of the best
-If you love 90s teen movies, you have to watch Can't Hardly Wait
-Willow's blue hat
-We finally figured out what the Angel spinoff is about
-Was the Buffy/Angel goodbye too rushed?
-The Judge is assembled and comes with a bunch of vampire lore
-Spike suffered some kind of spinal injury when an organ fell on him
-Is there a line that should not be crossed when it comes to how old vampires are?
-Favorite scenes
-Favorite quotes

Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 2, episode 14, “Innocence”:
-We should clarify, Angel did not lose his humanity because of the sex
-Buffy and Angel were completely happy for one fine moment, AND THEN EVERY CHANGED WHEN THE FIRENATION ANGELUS RETURNED
-Angelus is a more pure vampire because he was a blank slate
-Let's discuss the vampire three way
-When Angelus walked back in, he stole the show
-Xander and Cordelia and Willow: The heart breaking love triangle
-Willow was given the most human storyline of the series-- she needed time to move on (thanks, Oz)
-Xander is a "good guy," but he is not a "good guy" in an emotional sense
-Angel strips Buffy down in an awful way
-Is this the first time we see some emotion between Angelus and Buffy?
-Dark hallway-- shut it down, Willow
-The flashback to the sex scene was... length and graphic?
-Whedon sex sounds ruined the intimacy
-Xander apparently knows everything from the army
-Oz is once again, perfect
-Buffy needs someone to blame, but was Jenny actually that bad?
-The Judge's farewell, Buffy reclaims her power
-Now Buffy's story truly kicks off
-Buffy's not ready to kill Angel, but she's probably going to regret it
-This is not Buffy's fault and the show makes a point to show that to the audience
-"Let it burn"
-Favorite scenes
-Favorite quotes

Listener Feedback:
-Go back and listen to Avatar!
-The "Bad Eggs" were not worms
-JAMES MARSTERS IS NOT BRITISH?!
-Don't Google "Close Your Eyes"
-90s crushin' hard
-HI DANIELLE! Tell us about your flour woes

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