Episode #154 – ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ – 2×17, 2×18 – Jason Krueger

Join us as we discuss Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 2, episode 17, “Passion,” and episode 18, “Killed by Death.”

Superfans: Selina and Karen
Newbies: Mitch and Kristen

Fun Facts:

Mitch saw Hamilton (to the jealousy of everyone who still hasn't been able), Karen had a fun fact planned that she forgot due to yummy beverages the night before, Kristen has a box of DVDs that weighs more than a couple of small children, and Selina is rewatching Battlestar Galactica while nursing a fever just like Buffy in Killed by Death.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 2, episode 17, “Passion”:
-Synopsis
-Newbie reactions: Kristen and Mitch both found the big death abrupt.
-Angel's monologue about passion narrating the episode: Love it or hate it?
-Should Buffy tell Joyce about the supernatural threat?
-Does not telling Joyce put her in danger that she wouldn't be in otherwise?
-Buffy and Joyce: Is Joyce trying not to be a helicopter parent or does she just not try?
-Jenny and Giles are so, so close to happiness...and then Angel rips it away.
-The scene in Giles' apartment is so beautifully disturbing.
-When Willow cries, we cry. This episode definitely instigated a few teary eyes.
-Angel is blissfully happy at the same time and it's so incredibly creepy.
-Are we all equally emotionally invested in this episode?
-The floppy disk gives us hope despite so many other hopes being dashed.
-We are focused on everyone's reactions to Jenny's death, rather than the event itself.
-Giles the badass and his need for vengeance.
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite Lines

Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 2, episode 18, “Killed by Death”:
-Synopsis
-Newbie reactions: Kristen was scarred forever by the creepy guy and Mitch was creeped out by the eye suckers.
-This is a skippable episode for Selina, while Karen tries to convince us that it has its own merits.
-The lack of Angelus might be one reason we don't love this episode as much.
-The creepy guy is very Freddy Krueger-esque.
-Cordelia and Xander have a moment, and she calls him out on his Buffy fixation.
-Xander and Cordelia are truly starting to care for each other, and that changes things.
-Cordelia is slowly being unveiled as a vital part of the Scooby gang. She is really into this now.
-Selina fills in a gap that was puzzling Kristen.
-The Scooby gang killed this villain differently from how they've gone at it before.
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite Lines

Listener Feedback:
-Gordon references #NationalPuppyDay's coincidental overlap with "Passion."
-We remind everyone who the newbies and the superfans are, and how you can double check who is who on every episode.
-Mandi tells us we're the best part of her Monday. We really appreciate the love!
-Mariah asks a question about why Cordy was immune to Xander's love spell in the last episode.
-Shari is excited that there are differing opinions on Xander.
-A pair of listener comments from IHATEXANDER and Melisa get us talking about Xander on Buffy and what does or does not bother us about him as a character.

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