Episode #180: ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ 4×13, ‘Angel’ 1×13 – Shiny Pretty Boys

Join us as we discuss Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 4, episode 13, “The I in Team,” and Angel season 1, episode 13, “She.”

Superfans: Karen and Caitlin
Newbies: Mitch and Brittany

Fun Facts:
Mitch hit up the dollar store and got tons of Halloween decorations because it's never too early to get in the spirit. Caitlin has a PUPPY! A REAL PUPPY! GAGE! Fall punched Brittany in the face and she could not be happier! Karen is missing the West Wing cast in Ohio, but we recommended hitchhiking for Janney. Also, Mitch and Karen recall a road trip they took.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 4, episode 13, "The I in Team":
-We're finally infiltrating the Initiative
-Good, evil, or indifferent?
-Walsh's secrets are out-- how do we feel about her?
-Do we really know her purpose for creating Adam?
-Walsh is very much isolated in her mission, but their is a personal connection to the members of the Initiative
-Spike is tagged and yet again goes back to the group
-When will Spike accept he is becoming part of the gang?
-Willow and Buffy are starting to feel strained
-How do we feel about Buffy pushing her friends away time after time for a shiny boy?
-BUFFY SLAYS!
-How did Walsh underestimate Buffy's slaying ability?
-What will happen now that Riley is stepping away from the Inititave?
-Mitch finds a way back to Star Wars
-What will type of threat will Adam bring to the Buffy-verse?
-Favorite scenes
-Favorite lines

Angel season 1, episode 13, "She":
-What are our overall thoughts of "She" and the plot?
-Was the purpose for Angel's fling?
-Or was it exploring the more gray area for demons than we tend to think about?
-We're seeing lots of demons who need help
-This separates Angel from Buffy's more black-and-white approach to demons
-Jheria is a fascinating character to watch on screen
-Let's talk about the Oden Tal culture
-The Ko really highlights a lot of real world issues
-Exploding eyeballs - ew
-Angel is walking a tight rope of storytelling
-The strength of the female Oden Tal is an incredibly strong story arc and we would like a spinoff
-Kirk is back again!
-Is there a way for Jheria to come back especially with that spine glowing thing?
-Angel's jacket talk never gets old
-"It's an art form"
-Favorite scenes
-Favorite lines

Listener Feedback:
-Buffy is love and life!
-What if "She" was about Angel turning into a woman?
-Turning off autoplay backfired this week!
-Apparently S4 is Gretchen Wieners hair, full of secrets.

Mitch's Musings:

-Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 4, episode 14, "Goodbye Iowa" - Goodbye to Riley?
-Angel season 1, episode 14, "I've Got You Under My Skin" - Creatures under literal skin? Or just annoying everyone?

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