Episode #217: ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’ 6×05, ‘Angel’ 3×05 – Team Poor, Awkward Tara

Join us as we discuss Angel season 3, episode 5, "Fredless" and Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 6, episode 5, "Life Serial."

Superfans: Natalie and Maj
Newbies: Ariana and Kristen

Fun Facts:
Natalie is having internet issues and she is so over it. More of a not-fun fact. Kristen had a night of nine-year-old fun with her niece last night and it was just what she needed. Ariana was a bridesmaid in her friend's wedding and had a ton of fun. Maj has two fun facts: She got to pick her own bridesmaid's dress last year from Asus and she just saw Wonder Woman.

Angel season 3, episode 5, "Fredless":
-Synopsis
-The gang theorizes about what happened between Buffy and Angel during their little rendezvous midway between Sunnydale and L.A.
-Why do we think the show didn't show or tell us what happened between Buffy and Angel?
-Angel the show is tired of being Buffy's little brother.
-Yet another conversation about Angel and his "moments of perfect bliss" (AKA his sex life).
-We take a poll: Did we all think Fred's parents were evil?
-Fred the Texan physicist.
-Lorne gets a whole storyline, so he seems to be more of a fully fleshed-out character.
-Lorne advised Fred to keep running, that she "hadn't run far enough." Sad Lorne is sad.
-Fred was pretty happily in denial about her Pylea life, but is forced to confront it by her non-evil parents.
-Mom runs a bug over with a bus!
-Fred leaves. Sadface.
-But, wait! She comes back to save the day!
-We are all weirded out that Gunn forgot that demon head wasn't a prop.
-Fred finds her place at Angel Investigations and she gets a fresh start after painting over her walls.
-Is Fred still crushing on Angel? Or is this fresh start a completely new one?
-A few trivia items for this episode!
-Fred grew a lot in this episode, and it's important to see just what she has to offer to the team.
-Wesley is the liberal arts kind of smart, while Fred is more math and sciences.
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite Lines

Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 6, episode 5, "Life Serial":
-Synopsis
-Everyone has expectations about what Buffy should do with her life now.
-Team Tara is awkwardly trying to keep things together.
-Buffy entered college without a good idea of what she wants, and that's perfectly okay. (Natalie explains how different it is in Australia.)
-This episode's antagonists, The Trio: AKA JAW/WAJ/Prime Lords of Sunnydale?
-Jonathan is spells, Warren is technology, and Andrew is... unclear.
-What is with the Trio? What do they want?
-First Spell: Time fast-forwarding device? What? Disorienting, just like Willow's classes.
-Second Spell: Jonathan summons demons for Buffy to fight at the construction site.
-Third Spell: A time loop while she works at the Magic Box.
-Fourth Spell: Red Demon thing? Drunk Buffy still beats him up.
-We all agree that the first spell is the worst and freakiest, but the time loop was frustrating and stressful.
-Buffy and Spike hangout time.
-We all weigh in on our Spike/Buffy feels.
-What do we think Buffy feels/thinks about hanging out with Spike?
-Why does she choose to hang with him?
-Buffy solidly hands Giles his parental unit card when she compares him to her mother.
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite Lines

Listener Feedback:
-There is no Ariana hate. Only love.
-Buffy should *totally* be getting paid.
-We are already at two years of Buffy/Angel! What could possibly be next?
-Would a chance Buffy was in hell outweigh the possibility of heaven?

Ariana's Answers/Kristen's Kontemplations:

–Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 6, episode 6, "All the Way"
–Angel season 3, episode 6, "Billy"

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