Episode #237: 'Angel' 4x02, 'Buffy' 7x04 - The Kleenex of Search Engines

Join ReWatchable as we discuss Angel season 4, episode 2, "Ground State," and Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 7, episode 4, "Help."

Superfans: Karen
Newbies: Kristen and Mitch

Fun Facts:

Mitch is having alien abduction dreams and is waking up at 4 a.m. every day. No fun. Kristen saw Thor:Ragnarok and is very excited about that cameo everyone is talking about. Karen dressed up as Dark Willow for Halloween and we're still talking about it.

Angel season 4, episode 2, "Ground State":
-Synopsis
-Thoughts on Gwen: Love her? Like her? Hate her?
-Gunn DIED!?!? We weren't actually fooled.
-Fred freaks out about Gunn's death, but not only in the way you'd imagine.
-We are so appreciative of Fred's freak out.
-Gwen restarts Angel's heart...
-This whole heart beating thing seems significant, but they don't really address it.
-Could this be tied to Spike's recent acquisition of his soul?
-Wesley needs his big reunion moment already.
-And we are so ready for him to put Lilah behind him and move on already.
-Lilah stumbles upon Connor and Angel is quick to threaten her.
-Connor has some stuff to work through, and we think being away from Angel and the pancake gang is good for him.
-Angel wants his Cordy back. *Swoon*
-Cordy may be a higher being, but she is so over it.
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite Lines

Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 7, episode 4, "Help":
-Synopsis
-First impressions: We are all fans of this episode.
-Karen's Greek mythology knowledge comes in handy regarding Cassie the Seer.
-This episode gave Mitch and Karen some major Push feelings.
-Lots of small roles for the kids Buffy is counseling, and so many cameos from actors that we know now from other WB/CW shows.
-We have lots of thoughts about the principal. Is he good? Evil? Something in between?
-Willow is worried about helping with this Hellmouth problem.
-Who is going to do Cassie in?
-Dawn handles the crazy white boy. Go Dawn!
-Spike is not dealing with things well. Are these voices going to end up as our Big Bad this season?
-Cassie uses her abilities to give Spike a hint: "She's going to tell you."
-We have different points of view about this prophecy business. Mitch is not a fan.
-Just when we think Cassie is going to be fine, death finds her.
-What does Cassie's fate mean for the show going forward?
-When it's your time, death will find you.
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite Lines

Listener Feedback:
-Maj weighs in: We missed discussing the Willow/Anya scene.
-We were all disturbed by that demon eating Willow's flesh. *shudders*
-A few more finale thoughts about Xander and him abandoning Buffy.
-And we hear from a new listener! Welcome to the ReWatchable family, Winona!

Mitch's Musings/Kristen's Kontemplations:
-Angel season 4, episode 3, "The House Always Wins"
-Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 7, episode 5, "Selfless"

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