Shattered Lives | Next of Kin and the Heartbreaking Task of Death Notifications

Shattered Lives | Next of Kin and the Heartbreaking Task of Death Notifications

In this emotional and powerful episode of the Body Bags podcast, hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Jackie Howard delve into the emotional challenges faced by medical legal death investigators, specifically when it comes to the difficult task of notifying next of kin about the death of a loved one. Joe Scott shares his personal experiences and insights on how the emotional aspect of death notifications can impact both the investigator and grieving family members, the lasting impact these moments have on both the families and himself, how science plays a role in his job but its limitations in dealing with the emotional aspects of death notification, as well as the importance of mercy and compassion in the face of death.

Time-codes:

00:00 - Introduction.

03:30 - Joe Scott's first experience with a death notification.

06:10 - Improvements in emotional training for death investigators.

07:00 - Challenges of handling multiple cases and notifications.

08:55 - Families' need for confirmation of the deceased's location.

12:00 - The importance of timeliness in death notifications.

15:45 - Being vigilant during investigations and protecting loved ones' privacy.

17:25 - Balancing speed and thoroughness in death investigations.

19:05 - Family members as key sources of information for cases.

20:00 - The limited information retention of grieving families.

22:25 - The lasting impact of death notifications on families.

25:00 - Delivering death news directly.

26:50 - Notifying a family of a second son's death within six months.

28:55 - JoScott’s love for science and its role in his work but its limitations when it comes to dealing with the emotional aspects of death notification.

31:20 - The necessity of accurate deceased identification and location knowledge.

33:00 - Keeping information simple for grieving families.

33:45 - The need for compassion and mercy during emotionally low moments.

36:00 - Joe Scott's personal struggle with PTSD and the end of his career.

38:55 - Outro.

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Beaten, Strangled, Dragged Behind a Car: Who Killed  Melonie White?

Beaten, Strangled, Dragged Behind a Car: Who Killed  Melonie White?

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Stabbed, Set on Fire as They Slept: The Bermudez Family Murders

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Shayna Hubers calls 911 from Ryan Poston's condo in Highland Heights, Kentucky, and tells dispatch "I killed my boyfriend in self-defense". Hubers tells police Ryan Poston had been beating her all day long, tossing her around like a rag doll, and when he pulled out his gun, she grabbed it and shot him in the face. Police read Shayna Hubers her "Miranda" rights, and Hubers asks for a lawyer.  Even though Shayna Hubers has just been told she "has the right to remain silent" she lacks the ability, and tells investigators that she shot him twice in the face, then, as he was twitching, she said she thought he was going to die anyway or his face would be really deformed so she shot him 4 more times to make sure he was dead. Shayna Hubers tells police "I gave him the nose job he always wanted."  Joseph Scott Morgan explains how the crime scene and Ryan Poston's clothes tell a different story than the one Shayna Hubers is telling and Dave Mack digs into the background of an 18-month relationship that ended in the murder of a man who seemed to be everyone's favorite person.     Transcribe Highlights 00:03.40 Introduction - Rhinoplasty 04:55.81 Hammers, Chisels, and black eyes 09:27.14 Hubers gave boyfriend the "nose job he always wanted 14:58.88 Shayna Hubers and Jody Arias 20:15.42 What happened when Ryan Poston was murdered 25:04.98 True case of domestic abuse 30:20.01 Difference in bullet size 35:01.84 Stippling present on Ryan Poston 39:38.81 Hubers claims of abuse unfounded 44:21.70 Blood on shirt and pants indicates Poston seated 48:14.50 Conclusion  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Skull of Girl, 17, Found in Wall: COLD CASE SOLVED

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James Skinner begins doing some work inside his home outside of Chicago when he finds a human skull stuffed in a wall! Not wanting to be accused of a murder, Skinner calls police and they investigate as far as they can in 1978, and after identifying the skull as human, the case goes cold and police send the skull to the  Batavia Depot Museum for storage. The skull was forgotten until March of 2021 when supervisors at the museum discovered a box with the skull inside. Joseph Scott Morgan will take you through the investigation that identified the skull and Dave Mack will tell the backstory of the 17-year-old girl, Esther Ann Granger, who died in 1866 and how did her skull end up inside the wall of a home outside of Chicago.  A cold case solved with Othram Labs.         00:00:04.46 Introduction 00:04:09.88 A Human skull found inside a wall  00:10:20.41 Explaining what happens to bones that are protected from elements 00:14:14.68 Joe talks anthropology 00:19:09.14 Other than bones, a Bonet was discovered with skull 00:24:31.45 Discussion of Dr. Clyde Snow and his work 00:30:10.59 Age of bones determination 00:34:04.70 Othram Labs identifies a living relative  00:40:36.81 Esther Granger identified, died during childbirth 00:42:36.56 Conclusion - Othram Labs www.dnasolves.com  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

5 Marras 202443min

Death of Innocence: The Murders of Abby, 13 and Libby, 14

Death of Innocence: The Murders of Abby, 13 and Libby, 14

Delphi Murder Trial: What REALLY Happened to Libby and AbbyBody Bags Delphi Murders Part 2 Libby German and Abby Williams vanished from a public park area in broad daylight on February 13. Witnesses were all around, but nobody saw what happened to the girls. The girls were on the High Bridge at 2:13 pm taking pictures and posting them online. By 3:15 Libby isn't answering her phone and nobody can find the girls. Police are called early but Libby and Abby are nowhere to be found. The bodies of Libby and Abby are found on February 14. They were murdered. Joseph Scott Morgan has been involved in the case since it began and has met with Family members but waited until some of the forensic information was available so he could break it down and explain what the science tells us about the deaths of Libby German and Abby Williams       Transcript Highlights00:00:00.89 INTRODUCTION: Delphi Murder Trial PART TWO  00:02:00.29 Delphi Case-specifics of the box cutter 00:04:19.95 Blood four feet up from the ground 00:10:15.62 Recording Bridge Guy  00:15:10.56 Law Enforcement knows evil is in the area 00:20:16.14 Other suspects, Keegan Kline 00:25:11.54 Describing the bodies 00:30:10.84 Libby was outgoing, Abby was quiet 00:35:02.39 How could one person control both girls 00:40:20.38 Discussion of the unfired bullet 00:45:00.12 Conclusion Trial is ongoing  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Liam Payne SHOCKER! Suicide? Murder? Accident?

Liam Payne became a huge star as a member of One Direction and he hasbeen very public about his struggles with alcohol and depression. He recent death shocked millions of fans around the world. Joseph Scott Morgan takesa close-up look at "Pink Cocaine" and other drugs rumored to be in Liam Payne'sHotel room and what really happened in the moments before Liam Payne plunged to his death from his hotel balcony.             Transcript Highlights00:14.53 Introduction - celebrity deaths 03:02.27 The death of Liam Payne 05:06.76 Living Recovery 10:02.36 Why do musicians have issues 14:08.85 Pink Cocaine - New? 20:15.60 Walter White - Blue Meth 24:58.34 Liam Payne talked about his life with alcohol 29:24.53 Autopsy  34:35.74 Hotel was warned about a guest and balcony 39:13.93 Looking for security cameras 43:28.79 Was his death witnessed? 47:48.18 Conclusion - Dial 988See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

30 Loka 202447min

Delphi Murder Trial: What REALLY Happened to Libby and Abby

Delphi Murder Trial: What REALLY Happened to Libby and Abby

Libby German and Abby Williams vanished from a public park area in broad daylight on February 13. Witnesses were all around, but nobody saw what happened to the girls. The girls were on the High Bridge at 2:13 pm taking pictures and posting them online. By 3:15 Libby isn't answering her phone and nobody can find the girls. Police are called early but Libby and Abby are nowhere to be found. The bodies of Libby and Abby are found on February 14. They were murdered. Joseph Scott Morgan has been involved in the case since it began and has met with Family members but waited until some of the forensic information was available so he could break it down and explain what the science tells us about the deaths of Libby German and Abby Williams.          00:00:00.89 INTRODUCTION: Delphi Murder Trial 00:02:36.29 Delphi Case - getting to know Libby's grandparents 00:07:19.95 Who knows about a "snow day" "teacher day" 00:12:15.62 By 5pm Libby and Abby are missing 00:17:10.56 Libby and Abby not dressed for running off 00:22:16.14 Elderly gentleman finds the girls, turns his back, waits for police 00:27:21.54 Trial underway: More info available  00:32:10.84 The Reason a large crime scene is created 00:37:02.39 Libby's shirt found tossed in tree 00:40:20.38 Trial is ongoing, this is the first show on DelphiThere will be more shows coming upSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

29 Loka 202441min

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