#66 - Nature Wants Us to Be Fat (Dr. Casey Means & Dr. Richard Johnson)

#66 - Nature Wants Us to Be Fat (Dr. Casey Means & Dr. Richard Johnson)

Dr. Casey Means, Chief Medical Officer of Levels speaks with Dr. Richard Johnson about his new book, "Nature Wants Us to Be Fat," as well as his insights on the "survival switch" that drives our body to store fat in response to certain conditions like high fructose, dehydration, umami flavors, and more, and how this all relates to our current metabolic disease epidemic.


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(04:25) - The fat switch
(11:39) - Metabolic syndrome is linked to survival
(13:36) - The switch is good for short term survival, bad for long term
(17:40) - Sugar triggers the switch
(19:39) - Sugar leads to metabolic syndrome, not extra calories
(23:40) - Fructose depletes energy
(31:28) - Vitamin C is protective against obesity
(35:12) - High glycemic foods help our bodies make fructose
(44:29) - Whole fruit is healthy because of the fiber
(53:48) - Salt can trigger fructose production

Transcripts & Show Notes

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#35 – Building our Engineering Team (Michael Mizrahi & Andrew Conner)

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#34 – Growth experiments & playbooks (Wiz Abdulla & Ben Grynol)

#34 – Growth experiments & playbooks (Wiz Abdulla & Ben Grynol)

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#33 – Inbox zero & time management (Sam Corcos, Casey Means & Ben Grynol)

#33 – Inbox zero & time management (Sam Corcos, Casey Means & Ben Grynol)

Inbox zero – it's taken the email world by storm and has been popularized by startups, like Superhuman. But, everyone seems to have their own process for managing emails and prioritizing tasks. Someti...

21 Loka 20211h

#32 – Personal Socrates (Marc Champagne & Mike Haney)

#32 – Personal Socrates (Marc Champagne & Mike Haney)

Marc Champagne started out his career in the corporate world. After a decade of working in roles across sales, analytics, and product management, he took a leap and started a company – KYO – a journal...

18 Loka 202155min

#31 – The future of hardware for continuous glucose monitoring (Josh Clemente & Ben Grynol)

#31 – The future of hardware for continuous glucose monitoring (Josh Clemente & Ben Grynol)

As a company focused on metabolic health and continuous glucose monitoring, it's important for Levels to be on the forefront of technology. For our team, it means that we must understand what's possib...

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#30 – Who let Colonel Mustard into the mansion? (Dr. Robert Lustig & Dr. Casey Means)

#30 – Who let Colonel Mustard into the mansion? (Dr. Robert Lustig & Dr. Casey Means)

In September of 2021, Dr. Robert Lustig participated in a Book Club with the Levels Community, where he discussed his latest book – Metabolical. For the session, Dr. Casey Means, Co-founder & Chief Me...

11 Loka 202133min

#29 – Mental models and heuristics – shortcuts to be more productive (Sam Corcos & Ben Grynol)

#29 – Mental models and heuristics – shortcuts to be more productive (Sam Corcos & Ben Grynol)

Mental models allow us to take shortcuts when makings decisions. The heuristics that create the foundation of mental models can be stacked on top of each other to form new mental models, when solving ...

7 Loka 20211h 6min

#28 – Ecosystems & platforms – a deep dive into tech (David Rosenthal & Ben Grynol)

#28 – Ecosystems & platforms – a deep dive into tech (David Rosenthal & Ben Grynol)

When most companies start, they are single-threaded companies. More specifically, companies start with one product or revenue stream and evolve. Amazon is a great example of a company that has built a...

4 Loka 20211h 14min

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