141. The Wonder and the Worry: The Power of Storytelling in Times of Environmental Crisis with Chris and Louise Johns
Outdoor Minimalist8 Heinä 2024

141. The Wonder and the Worry: The Power of Storytelling in Times of Environmental Crisis with Chris and Louise Johns

There is wonder in storytelling, whether through words, film, photography, music, dance, or painting. Any form of art requires a deep wonder and admiration for the subject or muse. Growing up in a world plagued by a climate crisis, though, there is immense worry.

So, how can we grapple with the wonder and the worry within our world of telling stories?

For episode 141 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, I had the pleasure of sitting down and learning from Chris Johns and his daughter Louise Johns to hear about how they balance both the wonder in photojournalism and the worry not only within the natural world but also in the world of media.

The first photographer to be named Editor-in-Chief for National Geographic magazine, Chris Johns served as the ninth Editor-in-Chief of the iconic magazine from January 2005 to April 2014, an era marked by 23 prestigious National Magazine Awards from the American Society of Magazine Editors.

In 2008, Chris was named Magazine Editor of the Year, and in 2011, National Geographic was named Magazine of the Year. Following his role as Editor-in-Chief, Chris led the organization as Chief Content Officer and directed a major initiative called “Beyond Yellowstone,” a multi-year project documenting the health of America’s first National Park. A native of Oregon, Chris resides with his family in Missoula, Montana, where he teaches journalism at the University of Montana and Oregon State University.

Louise Johns is an independent photojournalist and documentary photographer with a master’s degree in Environmental Science Journalism from the University of Montana. A National Geographic Explorer, her work examines the relationships between people, places, and animals, focusing on rural communities in the American West. She began documenting the landscapes and people of the American West while working as a horse wrangler in Montana’s Centennial Valley.

Her work has appeared in various outlets, including The New York Times, National Geographic, The Washington Post, GEO, The Nature Conservancy, Patagonia, and High Country News. Her work has been exhibited regionally and internationally and has won international awards. In addition to her photojournalism work, she teaches photography. She is a fellow with the International League of Conservation Photographers, a member of Women Photograph, and has a TEDx talk called Seeing With Heart. She lives in Montana, where she pursues stories that help her understand the place she calls home.

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The Wonder and the Worry Documentary

Trailer: https://youtu.be/oPKxr5HNvGQ?si=mmeQ1JSLMWlF5HWA

Films at OSU: https://films.oregonstate.edu/worry-wonder


Chris Johns

Photo Society: https://thephotosociety.org/member/chris-johns/

Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Johns_(photographer)

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-johns-36151532/


Louise Johns

Website: https://www.louisejohnsphoto.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/e.l.johns/?hl=en

NatGeo Explorer: https://explorers.nationalgeographic.org/directory/louise-johns

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33. The Truth About Sustainable Shoes with Steven Sashen

33. The Truth About Sustainable Shoes with Steven Sashen

In episode 33 of the Outdoor Minimalist Podcast, we are talking about shoes. This episode was actually born from a listener question! I had someone message me and ask: “Can you do a post or an episode about shoes? Specifically tennis shoes for people who are on their feet a lot, like runners or nurses. I find that I want new shoes every 3-6 months as a nurse. Is that the normal lifetime for shoes? Can you tell me which materials are best and what might last longer or be better for the Earth?” This is a really hard topic honestly, and there isn’t necessarily a cut-and-dry answer. Luckily, I had a chance to talk with Steven Sashen of Xero Shoes about his journey in the shoe industry and what he recommends we look for. If you remember, Steven joined me in one of my most popular episodes, “Greenwashing in the Outdoor Industry.” He had so many great insights and the listener response has been great, which is why I’m happy to welcome him back. For those that haven’t listened to that episode, Steven Sashen is a serial entrepreneur who has never had a job, a former professional stand up comic and award-winning screenwriter, and a competitive sprinter -- one of the fastest men over 55 in the country (maybe the fastest 55+ Jew in the world!). He and his wife, Lena Phoenix, co-founded the footwear company Xero Shoes, creating "a MOVEMENT movement" which has helped hundreds of thousands of people Live Life Feet First with happy, healthy, strong feet in addictively comfortable footwear. INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/ WEBSITE: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/ ORDER THE BOOK: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/book YOUTUBE: @theoutdoorminimalist ------------------------- XERO SHOES: https://xeroshoes.com/go/OUTDOORMINIMALIST XERO SHOES INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/xeroshoes

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32. Sustainable Adventure Tourism: Guide Education Resources with Xenia Brundin

32. Sustainable Adventure Tourism: Guide Education Resources with Xenia Brundin

In episode 32 of the Outdoor Minimalist Podcast, we are talking about sustainable adventure tourism. Now, this is a fairly broad topic, so in this episode, we are mostly focusing on how guides and guiding companies can best equip themselves to teach and advocate for best practices when recreating outdoors. To help me do that, I’d like to introduce Xenia Brundin. Xenia is the co-founder of SUMMIT Adventure Academy and knows how powerful the role of a guide is in spreading knowledge and creating relationships between nature and guests. At SUMMIT Adventure Academy, they are educating a new generation of outdoor guides that are skilled but also environmentally and socially conscious to support the future of adventure travel and the outdoor industry. INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/ WEBSITE: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/ ORDER THE BOOK: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/book YOUTUBE: @theoutdoorminimalist ----------------------------- SUMMIT Adventure Academy WEBSITE: https://www.summitadventureacademy.com/ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/summitadventureacademy INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/summit.adventure.academy/ ----------------------------- EARTH MONTH GIVEAWAY DETAILS Mentally prepare to read the trashiest post you’ve ever seen for… our EARTH DAY GIVEAWAY! 🌎 @thegroundskeepers work isn't pretty. In fact, it's downright dirty work. We do it for our #1 (mama 🌎) and to encourage others to leave it better. We never place any sort of judgment on how trash came to be in our wild places or neighborhoods, we just take care of it (almost 30,000 pounds since 2017!). E N T E R: Pick up at least 3 pieces of trash Take a selfie or photo of your trash (vertical format) & DM it to @granitegear Follow all of our amazing Grounds Keeper sponsors and be entered to win S I D E N O T E S The giveaway ends at midnight PST on 4/21 Open to U.S. Residents only * Winners will only receive a DM from the official @granitegear account.

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31. How Do You Know What You Can Recycle? with Courtney Lane

31. How Do You Know What You Can Recycle? with Courtney Lane

In episode 31 of the Outdoor Minimalist Podcast, we are tackling the topic of recycling. This isn’t necessarily niched to the outdoor industry, but it is a topic that I get a lot of questions about so it felt fitting to discuss how recycling works in many areas and how you can learn more about what is and isn’t recyclable where you live. We did chat a bit about things like fuel canisters and other common outdoor industry consumables that many people throw away, but you can recycle. So, stay tuned for those tips near the end of the episode! Joining me today, I had the pleasure of hosting Courtney Lane. Courtney is an outdoor professional who has been in the industry for about six years now, with a primary focus on outdoor and environmental education. She takes pride in trying to be the best steward of the environment that she can by trying to understand her own overall consumption and also by educating future generations by sparking curiosity and connection for the outdoors. In her spare time, she is an amateur lifestyle blogger and photographer. INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/ WEBSITE: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/ ORDER THE BOOK: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/book YOUTUBE: @theoutdoorminimalist ----------------------------- COURTNEY LANE WEBSITE: https://wastelandcreates.wordpress.com/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/__courtneydanielle__/ LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtney-lane-4a9975224/ EPISODE RESOURCES Types of Plastics and Their Recycling Codes How To Recycle Metal Fuel Canisters How To Refill Camping Fuel Canisters Patagonia Worn Wear North Face Renewed Metamorphic Gear Green Guru CragDog

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30. Outdoor Industry Involvement in Reforestation Projects with Mindy Crowell

30. Outdoor Industry Involvement in Reforestation Projects with Mindy Crowell

In episode 30 of the Outdoor Minimalist Podcast, we are talking about reforestation projects! This is a really interesting and important topic because how reforestation is done and how companies claim these types of projects are carried out can vary. To help explain the importance of reforestation and how more outdoor industry companies can get involved, I’d like to introduce Mindy Crowell. Mindy is the Reforestation Partnerships Director at the National Forest Foundation. Mindy holds a Master’s Certificate in Natural Resources Conflict Resolution from the University of Montana along with experience in developing and implementing public engagement campaigns, facilitation, and fund development. As a former co-host and producer on the Outlandish podcast, Mindy loves hearing about the stories and adventures people have on our public lands and she is passionate about positively impacting America’s favorite national real-estate. INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/ WEBSITE: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/ ORDER THE BOOK: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/book YOUTUBE: @theoutdoorminimalist ----------------------------- NATIONAL FOREST FOUNDATION WEBSITE: https://www.nationalforests.org/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/nationalforests/ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/NationalForestFoundation More About Mindy 30 Things You Should Know About Planting Trees Why Reforestation ----------------------------- EARTH MONTH GIVEAWAY DETAILS Mentally prepare to read the trashiest post you’ve ever seen for… our EARTH DAY GIVEAWAY! 🌎 @thegroundskeepers work isn't pretty. In fact, it's downright dirty work. We do it for our #1 (mama 🌎) and to encourage others to leave it better. We never place any sort of judgment on how trash came to be in our wild places or neighborhoods, we just take care of it (almost 30,000 pounds since 2017!). E N T E R: Pick up at least 3 pieces of trash Take a selfie or photo of your trash (vertical format) & DM it to @granitegear Follow all of our amazing Grounds Keeper sponsors and be entered to win @granitegear Crown2 60 @kulacloth (4 of them!) @foodforsole 8 Meals @astralfootwear Loyaks @sawyerproducts @hikersbrew 12-Pack Sampler @hibearco All-Day Adventure Flask @ucowear ECO 5-Piece Mess Kit & Camp Cup @lavalinens Two Woven Wonders Hand Towels @outdoor.minimalist.book “Waste Less Hiking, Camping, and Backpacking” (pre-order) S I D E N O T E S The giveaway ends at midnight PST on 4/21 Open to U.S. Residents only * Winners will only receive a DM from the official @granitegear account.

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29. The Role of Environmental Regulation in the Outdoor Industry with Jeff Baierlein

29. The Role of Environmental Regulation in the Outdoor Industry with Jeff Baierlein

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28. How to Poop Outside with Monica Aguilar

28. How to Poop Outside with Monica Aguilar

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27. Why You Need a Pee Rag (if you squat when you pee) with Anastasia Allison

27. Why You Need a Pee Rag (if you squat when you pee) with Anastasia Allison

In episode 27 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, we explore the idea of using pee rags in the backcountry in a bit more detail. If you are a person with a vulva, and you squat when you pee, a pee rag can be an excellent low waste option. If you want more information about pee rags, menstrual cups, and more, go back and check out episode 17 where we explore all things menses and peeing in the woods. In that episode, we briefly cover some pee rag options, one of them being the Kula Cloth. Because peeing outside is something many of us do, I was excited to sit down and chat with Anastasia Allison. Anastasia Allison is the founder of Kula Cloth, the first of its kind - an antimicrobial pee cloth for anybody who squats when they pee. Anastasia has been described as, 'mysteriously complex' - and when she isn't doing work for Kula or contemplating the vastness of the universe, she spends her time playing violin in the mountains, writing whimsical poetry or dancing. INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/ WEBSITE: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/ ORDER THE BOOK: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/book YOUTUBE: @theoutdoorminimalist ----------------------------- Lava Linens Discount Code for 15% off your next purchase: OUTDOORMINIMALIST KULA CLOTH WEBSITE: https://kulacloth.com/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/kulacloth/ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/thekulacloth/ ----------------------------- EPISODE RESOURCES LNT Guidelines How to Use a Pee Cloth SheFly Apparel Pee Funnel Menstrual Cup

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26. Parkscriptions: Your Prescription to Get Outside with Todd Elsworth

26. Parkscriptions: Your Prescription to Get Outside with Todd Elsworth

Have you ever wished you could get a doctor’s note to go take a hike? Well, in episode 26 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, we discuss parkscriptions– your prescription to get outside. It is no secret that we often feel better after just spending 20 minutes outside, whether we are sitting and forest bathing or on a walk in the park. The physical and mental benefits are astounding. There are several movements that focus on helping people get outside more often and many organizations like the National Park Service and Recreate Northwest that make opting outdoors easier. To help me discuss what parkscriptions are and how the idea can be added to your life, I’d like to introduce Todd Elsworth. Todd Elsworth likes to play outside, go on adventures with family and friends, and give back to his community. In 2013, Elsworth turned his passion into a profession, founding the Bellingham-based non-profit Recreation Northwest. The organization’s mission to “teach the health benefits of nature, promote outdoor recreation, and steward the places where we play” guides his work. Recreation Northwest provides opportunities for people to be introduced to beginner and intermediate experiences learning outdoor recreation skills, enjoying the health benefits of being mindful outdoors through immersive experiences in nature, and having a local guide to connect our parks and our people together through adventure and storytelling. INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/ WEBSITE: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/ ORDER THE BOOK: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/book YOUTUBE: @theoutdoorminimalist ----------------------------- Lava Linens Discount Code for 15% off your next purchase: OUTDOORMINIMALIST RECREATION NORTHWEST WEBSITE: https://www.recreationnorthwest.org/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/recreationnorthwest/ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/RecreationNorthwest YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9UxNriLeKfsbmcsL56kMsg ----------------------------- EPISODE RESOURCES Parkscriptions Summary Park RX America National Park RX Program

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