#184 Kara Goucher on Living with Dystonia, the Nike Oregon Project and Protecting Female Athletes

#184 Kara Goucher on Living with Dystonia, the Nike Oregon Project and Protecting Female Athletes

On this episode, Matt & Andrea have the privilege of interviewing Olympian Kara Goucher. Kara's just released her book, the Longest Race, Inside the Secret World of Abuse, Doping, and Deception on Nike's Elite Running Team. They cover many facets of Kara's story, from her current struggles with runner's dystonia to her integral part in exposing the Nike Oregon Project and Alberto Salazar. They also discuss how excel at any fitness level, finding joy in running by feel, and encouraging female runners of all ages.


Kara Goucher is a three-time NCAA champion, two-time Olympian, winner of the silver medal at the 2007 World Championships in the 10,000 meters, and a podium finisher at the Boston and New York Marathons. She is a running analyst for NBC Sports. She cohosts the hit running commentary podcast Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara, as well as the Clean Sport Collective podcast, promoting fair play in sports. She lives in Boulder, Colorado, with her Olympic-runner husband, Adam, and their son, Colt. Her website is KaraGoucher.com.


Report at the links below if you have experienced abuse or misconduct, or if you have reasonable suspicion of abuse or misconduct inflicted on, or by, someone in the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Movement, which includes USATF. There are no associated costs, fees, or other financial barriers attached to submitting a report. The reporting form available when clicking the ‘Report Abuse or Misconduct’ button allows for reports to be made anonymously.
https://uscenterforsafesport.org/report-a-concern/
https://www.usatf.org/safe-sport/reporting-a-safe-sport-complaint
If you or someone you know needs help with disordered eating, please consult these resources:
https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/resource-center/
https://fastr.stanford.edu/resources/

Chapters

  • 0:00: - Intro
  • 2:16: - If you could change one thing about the sport of running, what would it be?
  • 16:09: - How to find your own excellence level
  • 20:34: - Kara's runners dystonia diagnosis
  • 32:02: - How shoe choice effects dystonia
  • 40:17: - Learning to live & train with dystonia
  • 44:50: - Kara's new book
  • 49:09: - The impacts of Kara's testimony about the Nike Oregon Project
  • 53:44: - The role of SafeSport in protecting athletes
  • 1:00:51: - Improving female athlete's health as they grow and age
  • 1:12:12: - Wrap-up

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Time for a little DOR myth busting! Nathan, David, and Matt team up to take a look at some user-submitted running "truths", to shed some light on whether they're fact or fiction. Does your cadence nee...

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#278 Our Three Biggest Issues with Shoe Fit, Ranked

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#277 Mailbag! Best Non-Plated Speed Shoes? Does Toe Spring Effect Hyper Extension? Running Advice for Joint Disease and Arthritis?

Our teams loves answering your questions, so here we are to dig into the mailbag! Nathan, Andrea, and David team up and talk to talk shoes, training, and injuries. They discuss advice for running with...

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#276 Buy or Sell: Saucony Endorphin Azura, ASICS Nimbus 28, Is Runner’s High a Real Thing?

#276 Buy or Sell: Saucony Endorphin Azura, ASICS Nimbus 28, Is Runner’s High a Real Thing?

We're heading into the new year with a new round of Buy or Sell, one of our favorite podcast games. If you don't know the drill, we force ourselves to decide whether we buy or sell an idea, shoe, trea...

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#275 The Latest Research on Achilles Tendon Injuries

#275 The Latest Research on Achilles Tendon Injuries

Nathan and Matt are joined by a very special guest, Dr. Karin Sibernagel, Professor at University of Delaware, to discuss the latest research about tendon anatomy, injury, and rehabilitation. Karin sh...

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#274 The Topo Athletics Lineup Explained: 2026 Shoe Preview

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In this final part of our series meeting with brands to highlight their updates in the next year, Andrea is joined by Russ Stevens & Carolyn Todd from Topo Athletic. They highlight the big redesign to...

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#273 Breaking Down Saucony's Foams and New Endorphin Shoes for 2026

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