Exploring Tolkien15 Elo 2023

64. Movies are NOT Sub-Creation – On Fairy Stories, Part 4

When Tolkien talks about Fantasy, he doesn’t simply mean fiction stories set in sword-and-sorcery worlds. Fantasy is the highest form of sub-creation, the “most nearly pure form”–and the most potent. An art form that is “best left to words, to true literature.”

Michael, Dan, and I discuss this idea of Fantasy as the one form of Art that comes closest to true Enchantment. We look at:

The difference between imagination and fantasy.
The ideal of “Faërian Drama”.
The problem with “modern” sensibilities in Fantasy–and how that ruins true sub-creation.
Why films will never match the power of true sub-creation.

Then in our members-only episode (https://theonering.com/members) we:

Did Peter Jackson’s films destroy Tolkien’s sub-creative vision?
Can Tolkien’s faith be separated from his sub-creation? Should it?
Is there a difference between determinative and discovery sub-creation?
“No tears in the writer, no tears in the reader. No surprise in the writer, no surprise in the reader.”

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🔗 Episode Links
Tales from the Perilous Realm (has “On Fairy Stories” essay)
Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

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🔍 If You Like Tolkien
The Silmarillion
The Fall of Númenor
The Fall of Gondolin
The Children of Hurin
The Atlas of Middle-earth
The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien

🗣 Special Thanks to Austin Robertson for the use of his voice!

🖼 Special Thanks to Anna Grumbine for the artwork!

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