#438 – Elon Musk: Neuralink and the Future of Humanity

#438 – Elon Musk: Neuralink and the Future of Humanity

Elon Musk is CEO of Neuralink, SpaceX, Tesla, xAI, and CTO of X. DJ Seo is COO & President of Neuralink. Matthew MacDougall is Head Neurosurgeon at Neuralink. Bliss Chapman is Brain Interface Software Lead at Neuralink. Noland Arbaugh is the first human to have a Neuralink device implanted in his brain.

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Neuralink’s X: https://x.com/neuralink
Neuralink’s Website: https://neuralink.com/
Elon’s X: https://x.com/elonmusk
DJ’s X: https://x.com/djseo_
Matthew’s X: https://x.com/matthewmacdoug4
Bliss’s X: https://x.com/chapman_bliss
Noland’s X: https://x.com/ModdedQuad
xAI: https://x.com/xai
Tesla: https://x.com/tesla
Tesla Optimus: https://x.com/tesla_optimus
Tesla AI: https://x.com/Tesla_AI

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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) – Introduction
(09:26) – Elon Musk
(12:42) – Telepathy
(19:22) – Power of human mind
(23:49) – Future of Neuralink
(29:04) – Ayahuasca
(38:33) – Merging with AI
(43:21) – xAI
(45:34) – Optimus
(52:24) – Elon’s approach to problem-solving
(1:09:59) – History and geopolitics
(1:14:30) – Lessons of history
(1:18:49) – Collapse of empires
(1:26:32) – Time
(1:29:14) – Aliens and curiosity
(1:36:48) – DJ Seo
(1:44:57) – Neural dust
(1:51:40) – History of brain–computer interface
(1:59:44) – Biophysics of neural interfaces
(2:10:12) – How Neuralink works
(2:16:03) – Lex with Neuralink implant
(2:36:01) – Digital telepathy
(2:47:03) – Retracted threads
(2:52:38) – Vertical integration
(2:59:32) – Safety
(3:09:27) – Upgrades
(3:18:30) – Future capabilities
(3:47:46) – Matthew MacDougall
(3:53:35) – Neuroscience
(4:00:44) – Neurosurgery
(4:11:48) – Neuralink surgery
(4:30:57) – Brain surgery details
(4:46:40) – Implanting Neuralink on self
(5:02:34) – Life and death
(5:11:54) – Consciousness
(5:14:48) – Bliss Chapman
(5:28:04) – Neural signal
(5:34:56) – Latency
(5:39:36) – Neuralink app
(5:44:17) – Intention vs action
(5:55:31) – Calibration
(6:05:03) – Webgrid
(6:28:05) – Neural decoder
(6:48:40) – Future improvements
(6:57:36) – Noland Arbaugh
(6:57:45) – Becoming paralyzed
(7:11:20) – First Neuralink human participant
(7:15:21) – Day of surgery
(7:33:08) – Moving mouse with brain
(7:58:27) – Webgrid
(8:06:28) – Retracted threads
(8:14:53) – App improvements
(8:21:38) – Gaming
(8:32:36) – Future Neuralink capabilities
(8:35:31) – Controlling Optimus robot
(8:39:53) – God
(8:41:58) – Hope

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#335 – Fiona Hill: Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump

#335 – Fiona Hill: Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump

Fiona Hill is a presidential advisor and foreign policy expert specializing in Russia. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Mizzen+Main: https://mizzenandmain.com and use code LEX to get $35 off – Calm: https://calm.com/lex to get 40% off premium – Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex to get 1 month of fish oil – LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack EPISODE LINKS: Fiona’s Books: There Is Nothing for You Here: https://amzn.to/3TR0nN9 Mr. Putin: Operative in the Kremlin: https://amzn.to/3WiGU9F PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (06:24) – Education and career (17:10) – Donbas in the 20th century (25:28) – Soviet Union (36:03) – Donald Trump’s foreign policy (48:03) – Testifying against Donald Trump (54:54) – US administrations (1:16:28) – Impeachment of Donald Trump (1:36:44) – Why people like Donald Trump (1:45:49) – Vladimir Putin (2:05:58) – Invasion of Ukraine (2:21:03) – NATO implication in Ukraine war (2:33:54) – Interviewing Vladimir Putin (2:46:22) – 2024 elections (2:49:30) – Alexei Navalny (2:54:03) – Nuclear war (3:05:54) – How Ukraine war will end (3:12:40) – Hope for the future (3:15:48) – Advice for young people

4 Marras 20223h 24min

#334 – Abbas Amanat: Iran Protests, Mahsa Amini, History, CIA & Nuclear Weapons

#334 – Abbas Amanat: Iran Protests, Mahsa Amini, History, CIA & Nuclear Weapons

Abbas Amanat is a historian at Yale specializing in the modern history of Iran. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Henson Shaving: https://hensonshaving.com/lex and use code LEX to get 100 free blades with your razor – InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off – Onnit: https://lexfridman.com/onnit to get up to 10% off – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free EPISODE LINKS: Abbas’s Website: https://history.yale.edu/people/abbas-amanat Abbas’s Books: 1. Iran: https://amzn.to/3zzLWVA 2. Apocalyptic Islam and Iranian Shi’ism: https://amzn.to/3h66fU0 PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (06:18) – Mahsa Amini protests in Iran (24:35) – Propaganda (42:13) – Iranian culture (59:02) – Violent suppression of protests (1:20:31) – Islamic Revolution (1:38:14) – CIA in Iran (1:54:30) – Supreme Leader Ruhollah Khomeini (2:25:26) – Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei (2:33:21) – Nuclear weapons (2:41:38) – Israel (2:56:18) – Putin (3:03:50) – Future of Iran

2 Marras 20223h 11min

#333 – Andrej Karpathy: Tesla AI, Self-Driving, Optimus, Aliens, and AGI

#333 – Andrej Karpathy: Tesla AI, Self-Driving, Optimus, Aliens, and AGI

Andrej Karpathy is a legendary AI researcher, engineer, and educator. He’s the former director of AI at Tesla, a founding member of OpenAI, and an educator at Stanford. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings – BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off – Fundrise: https://fundrise.com/lex – Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex to get 1 month of fish oil EPISODE LINKS: Andrej’s Twitter: http://twitter.com/karpathy Andrej’s YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/AndrejKarpathy Andrej’s Website: http://karpathy.ai Andrej’s Google Scholar: http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=l8WuQJgAAAAJ Books mentioned: The Vital Question: https://amzn.to/3q0vN6q Life Ascending: https://amzn.to/3wKIsOE The Selfish Gene: https://amzn.to/3TCo63s Contact: https://amzn.to/3W3y5Au The Cell: https://amzn.to/3W5f6pa PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (05:41) – Neural networks (10:45) – Biology (16:15) – Aliens (26:27) – Universe (38:18) – Transformers (46:34) – Language models (56:45) – Bots (1:03:05) – Google’s LaMDA (1:10:28) – Software 2.0 (1:21:28) – Human annotation (1:23:25) – Camera vision (1:28:30) – Tesla’s Data Engine (1:32:39) – Tesla Vision (1:39:09) – Elon Musk (1:44:17) – Autonomous driving (1:49:11) – Leaving Tesla (1:54:39) – Tesla’s Optimus (2:03:45) – ImageNet (2:06:23) – Data (2:16:15) – Day in the life (2:29:31) – Best IDE (2:36:37) – arXiv (2:41:06) – Advice for beginners (2:50:24) – Artificial general intelligence (3:03:44) – Movies (3:09:37) – Future of human civilization (3:13:56) – Book recommendations (3:20:05) – Advice for young people (3:21:56) – Future of machine learning (3:28:44) – Meaning of life

29 Loka 20223h 33min

#332 – Kanye ‘Ye’ West Interview

#332 – Kanye ‘Ye’ West Interview

Ye is a legendary artist, producer, and designer. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get free trial – InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free – Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/lex to get 1 month of fish oil EPISODE LINKS: Ye’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/kanyewest Ye’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/kanyewest Ye’s Website: https://kanyewest.com PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:26) – Engineering (18:21) – Kim Kardashian (20:07) – Sex and the future of humanity (30:12) – Happiness (32:49) – The Holocaust (1:21:58) – Fashion (1:37:31) – 2024 US election (1:42:10) – Humor (1:44:20) – Media and antisemitism (1:56:23) – Trusting people (1:59:37) – Accountability (2:09:36) – Legacy (2:10:28) – Advice for young people (2:23:29) – Regret

24 Loka 20222h 33min

#331 – Balaji Srinivasan: How to Fix Government, Twitter, Science, and the FDA

#331 – Balaji Srinivasan: How to Fix Government, Twitter, Science, and the FDA

Balaji Srinivasan is an angel investor, tech founder, philosopher, and author of The Network State: How to Start a New Country. He was formerly the CTO of Coinbase and General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Policygenius: https://www.policygenius.com/ – Blinkist: https://blinkist.com/lex to get 25% off premium – Notion: https://notion.com – Onnit: https://lexfridman.com/onnit to get up to 10% off EPISODE LINKS: Balaji’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/balajis Balaji’s Website: https://balajis.com Books: 1. The Network State: https://thenetworkstate.com 2. Reputation and Power: https://amzn.to/3eyQiF6 3. Exit, Voice, and Loyalty: https://amzn.to/3TpuLNP 4. Seeing Like a State: https://amzn.to/3MJfvcD Articles: 1. Bitcoin Is Civilization: https://www.commonsense.news/p/is-bitcoin-anarchy-or-civilization 2. Great Protocol Politics: https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/12/11/bitcoin-ethereum-cryptocurrency-web3-great-protocol-politics 3. Regulation, Disruption, and the Future: https://bit.ly/3CKY9Ys 4. The Measured Man: https://theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/07/the-measured-man/309018 5. Secret Document That Transformed China: https://npr.org/sections/money/2012/01/20/145360447/the-secret-document-that-transformed-china 6. Hollywood’s Missing Movies: https://reason.com/2000/06/01/hollywoods-missing-movies 7. New York Times Truth Campaign: https://adweek.com/agencyspy/droga5s-first-big-campaign-for-the-new-york-times-is-all-about-the-truth/126274 PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:23) – Prime number maze (33:35) – Government (49:51) – The Network State (59:55) – Pseudonymous economy (1:23:41) – Exit (1:38:23) – Building a network state (2:26:09) – Wikipedia (3:03:40) – Fixing science (3:30:08) – Fixing the FDA (5:01:16) – Longevity (5:20:14) – Donald Trump’s ban from social media (5:49:32) – War (5:56:41) – Censorship (6:10:40) – Social media (6:26:56) – Wokeism and communism (6:45:44) – Cryptocurrency (7:03:17) – AI, AR, and VR (7:15:15) – Advice for young people (7:48:10) – Regulating logic

20 Loka 20227h 53min

#330 – Hikaru Nakamura: Chess, Magnus, Kasparov, and the Psychology of Greatness

#330 – Hikaru Nakamura: Chess, Magnus, Kasparov, and the Psychology of Greatness

Hikaru Nakamura is a chess super grandmaster and is currently the #1 ranked blitz chess player in the world. He is also one of the top chess streamers on Twitch and YouTube. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Mizzen+Main: https://mizzenandmain.com and use code LEX to get $35 off – InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off – NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour – SimpliSafe: https://simplisafe.com/lex EPISODE LINKS: Hikaru’s Twitch: https://twitch.tv/gmhikaru Hikaru’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/GMHikaru Hikaru’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/GMHikaru Hikaru’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/gmhikaru Hikaru’s Website: https://hikarunakamura.com Macauley Peterson’s video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tGXvcQP6VPo PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (06:59) – A private game vs Magnus Carlsen (14:47) – Chess openings (30:59) – Mental preparation (39:40) – Chess tactics (50:03) – Solving chess (55:43) – Aggression and ego (1:00:28) – Hans Niemann cheating scandal (1:10:21) – How to cheat in chess (1:24:44) – Greatest chess player of all time (1:35:00) – Hikaru’s immortal game (1:47:26) – Paul Morphy (1:49:10) – World Chess Championship (1:51:59) – Magnus Carlsen (1:55:33) – Sergey Karjakin (1:58:00) – Beauty of chess (2:04:55) – Day in the life (2:19:34) – Streaming (2:34:13) – Taking risks (2:39:42) – Depression (2:44:31) – Advice for young people (2:51:51) – Love

17 Loka 20222h 54min

#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

#329 – Kate Darling: Social Robots, Ethics, Privacy and the Future of MIT

Kate Darling is a researcher at MIT Media Lab interested in human robot interaction and robot ethics. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – True Classic Tees: https://trueclassictees.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off – Shopify: https://shopify.com/lex to get 14-day free trial – Linode: https://linode.com/lex to get $100 free credit – InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off – ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free EPISODE LINKS: Kate’s Twitter: http://twitter.com/grok_ Kate’s Website: http://katedarling.org Kate’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/grok_ The New Breed (book): https://amzn.to/3ExhBuf Creativity without Law (book): https://amzn.to/3MqV5F3 LuLaRobot (paper): http://drive.google.com/file/d/1PtYpkDQaQVPbhQIc6wcCC50JKWVsDo3k/view PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:57) – What is a robot? (23:57) – Metaverse (33:19) – Bias in robots (47:02) – Modern robotics (49:34) – Automation (53:57) – Autonomous driving (1:02:22) – Privacy (1:05:48) – Google’s LaMDA (1:10:35) – Robot animal analogy (1:23:38) – Data concerns (1:41:40) – Humanoid robots (2:00:42) – LuLaRobot (2:09:36) – Ethics in robotics (2:24:57) – Jeffrey Epstein (2:58:31) – Love and relationships

15 Loka 20223h 9min

#328 – John Danaher: Submission Grappling, ADCC, Animal Combat, and Knives

#328 – John Danaher: Submission Grappling, ADCC, Animal Combat, and Knives

John Danaher is one of the greatest coaches and minds in martial arts history. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – Audible: https://audible.com/lex to get 30-day free trial – Calm: https://calm.com/lex to get 40% off premium – Indeed: https://indeed.com/lex to get $75 credit – MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off – Eight Sleep: https://www.eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings EPISODE LINKS: John’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/danaherjohn Watch full matches at FloGrappling: https://flograppling.com PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (07:51) – Road to ADCC (26:23) – Danaher Death Squad (35:07) – Mental preparation (59:52) – Gordon Ryan (1:56:50) – Giancarlo Bodoni (2:21:57) – Garry Tonon (2:35:54) – Nicholas Meregali (2:51:21) – Ruotolo brothers (3:01:00) – Takedowns (3:05:19) – GSP (3:13:48) – Renzo Gracie (3:18:24) – Boris (3:22:15) – Ali Abdelaziz (3:24:41) – Khabib Nurmagomedov (3:28:33) – Joe Rogan playing pool (3:31:47) – Advice for grapplers (3:41:43) – Day in the life (3:48:25) – Bear vs Gorilla vs Lion vs Anaconda (4:26:12) – Tom Hardy (4:37:46) – Emojis (4:40:15) – Love (4:45:38) – Fighting to the death (4:49:25) – Knives

10 Loka 20224h 55min

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