S2:E14 - From Faith & Fear to Freedom: Dee - Pt. 1
Haystacks & Hell13 Heinä 2024

S2:E14 - From Faith & Fear to Freedom: Dee - Pt. 1

Support the Show • Part 1 of Santiago's interview with Dee, a fourth-generation Seventh-day Adventist, about his SDA background, early baptism, education, and what led him out of the church. In our wide-ranging conversation, we discussed racial issues in Adventist schools, the Civil Rights Movement, and more.

Resources / Topics Mentioned:

Video - We Are the World
Topic - Public Enemy
Film - Malcolm X (1992)
Topic - Assassination of MLK Jr.
Topic - Poor People's Campaign
Topic - The 15 Year Battle for MLK Jr Day
Video - MLK: "A riot is the language of the unheard"
Topic - White Americans Celebrated MLK's Death
Topic - Ronald Reagan's wartime lies

00:00 Intro
00:17 Meet Dee: 4th Gen Adventist
02:49 Early Memories & Fearing Ellen White
04:01 Questioning Church Teachings
09:02 A Life-Changing Tragedy
11:04 Living with Fear & Moving to Huntsville
19:01 Baptism and Religious Pressure
22:26 Purity Culture & Mixed Messages
28:51 Weird "Health Message" Fads
31:29 Racial Issues in Adventist Schools
38:11 Civil Rights, Division, MLK
43:30 Deconstructing Beliefs
47:02 How Othering Manipulates Us
53:07 The New Generation
55:29 Trickle Down Greedonomics
1:00:42 Dee's Adventist Education
1:07:16 Goodbye Oakwood, Hello Adulthood
1:11:26 Outro

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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